Early Christmas present from Mr Rudd...

SimonB · 10-27-2008, 05:21 AM

... well, blow me down like a feather! I checked the letter box this afternoon and found this:

Totally unexpected, I hadn't done anything to prompt it. I kind of was expecting it either as, although I'd ordered the 135i on the afternoon of budget night, I'd changed the order slightly and it was rewritten.

Apologies for the quality, couldn't be bothered using the decent camera.

The letter reads "Refund of overcharge of Luxury Car Tax on purchase if your motor car, detailed below, due to the 'budget night concession'. Your car was orderd before 7:30pm in the 13th May 2008".

Maybe I should buy a lotto ticket? :thumbup:

Cheers,

Simon....

Alext · 10-27-2008, 05:45 AM

Ahh that's excellent! I wish I didnt delay ordering mine a few weeks...I was humming and harring too much.

2QIK4U · 10-27-2008, 05:59 AM

Congratulations Simon.

Mine was ordered 17 March way before budget night.

A couple of weeks ago I sent a copy of the legislation to my dealer together with a refund request. Nothing has happened and follow up calls have not been returned.

Now I can really put the pressure on.

Thanks

Mike...

Breville · 10-27-2008, 06:14 AM

I bought mine 4 weeks ago, does that mean I'll be in for the 'baby' bonus? I thought we were paying 33%?

SimonB · 10-27-2008, 06:33 AM

Mike, glad I could assist - good luck!

SimonB · 10-27-2008, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Breville

I bought mine 4 weeks ago, does that mean I'll be in for the 'baby' bonus? I thought we were paying 33%?

Breville, if you ordered it before 7:30pm on the 13th of May, then you should receive the difference between the 25% and the new 33% LCT back.

Breville · 10-27-2008, 06:38 AM

Thanks Simon. Nah, I ordered mine 2 days before I bought it. How come you get the difference back then? Taxes go up; don't we just normally suffer that? Congrats to you though!!

SimonB · 10-27-2008, 07:00 AM

It's a long story mate, there's a thread here about the LCT increase. In a nutshell, an amendment was made at the last minute to allow exemptions to tourism operators and farmers (or some such) and also for it to not apply if you'd ordered the vehicle before budget night. The last one is the only sensible bit of the whole thing. Totally unexpected and a nice surprise!

BBK · 10-27-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Breville

Thanks Simon. Nah, I ordered mine 2 days before I bought it. How come you get the difference back then? Taxes go up; don't we just normally suffer that? Congrats to you though!!

It was a proposed tax increase, which never went ahead in the end? So dealers were charging it to be safe.

Breville · 10-27-2008, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BBK

It was a proposed tax increase, which never went ahead in the end? So dealers were charging it to be safe.

Eh? I thought it went through. I def got charged 33% as I had the conversation with the dealer as they got notified the day I negotiated the deal. I'm going to call the finance guy tomorrow..

BBK · 10-27-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Breville

Eh? I thought it went through. I def got charged 33% as I had the conversation with the dealer as they got notified the day I negotiated the deal. I'm going to call the finance guy tomorrow..

Hmmm... I thought it was canned! :iono:

Then why the refund?

DTNJNQ · 10-27-2008, 07:32 AM

The tax went through. There were some amendments to the law that will enable people who ordered their cars before the budget was announced to receive the 8% increase in LCT back even though they took deliver after 30 June 08.

cozza · 10-27-2008, 08:02 AM

So, should I also expect a refund? I ordered back in April...

SimonB · 10-27-2008, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cozza

So, should I also expect a refund? I ordered back in April...

In a word, yes.

In more than a word, from the horses mouth http://www.ato.gov.au/taxprofessionals/content.asp?doc=/content/00144892.htm

Threshold increase and amendments

Luxury car tax (LCT) applies to certain vehicles over the luxury car tax threshold ($57,180 for the 2008–09 year).

The Government announced in the 2008–09 Budget that it would increase the LCT rate from 25% to 33% from 1 July 2008.

Legislation to increase the LCT rate from 1 July 2008 became law on 3 October 2008, and includes a number of concessions:

In certain circumstances primary producers and tourist operators will be able to claim a refund of the additional 8% LCT (to a maximum of $3,000) on certain 4 wheel drive or all wheel drive vehicles

LCT will not apply to certain fuel efficient cars under the fuel efficient car limit ($75,000 for the 2008–09 year) from 3 October 2008, and

25% LCT will apply to contracts entered into for purchases or imports of a luxury car before 7.30pm Australian Eastern Standard Time (AEST) on 13 May 2008 (the date of the Federal Budget announcement to increase the LCT rate).

cozza · 10-27-2008, 08:14 AM

Link isn't working...

Does "contracts entered into for purchases or imports of a luxury car" include placing an order with a deposit? I don't think I signed a contract of sale until the car arrived. None of us signed a proper contract until we took delivery did we?

SimonB · 10-27-2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cozza

Link isn't working...

Thanks, fixed. Laziness...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cozza

Does "contracts entered into for purchases or imports of a luxury car" include placing an order with a deposit? I don't think I signed a contract of sale until the car arrived. None of us signed a proper contract until we took delivery did we?

I only signed the original an 'Offer to Purchase' on the 13th. I signed another, rewritten one, around the beginning of June when I added Nav, another when the LCT was announced (and I think when I paid the deposit) and there was a 4th new one when I went to pick up the car, but I was never asked to sign it.

So, I think the O2P is actually a contract. I seem to recall words to that effect on it. Anyway, why do you ask mate, your dealer not playing ball?

To be honest, I didn't think I had any chance of getting the refund due to the change I made in June, but every now and then you sink one.

professor · 10-27-2008, 09:20 AM

You know the rule Simon. Windfall gains must go towards mods - what do you have planned??

amk2912 · 10-27-2008, 09:38 AM

Yee Haah... After I read your post Simon I bolted down to my office and found a cheque from AutoClassic for $1,782.89!!!

Dang..the wife's nicked it already!

BTW, I wouldn't call it an early present from Mr Rudd....he's the mongrel who wanted to whack us the extra 8% in the first place!!!!

RobLS · 10-27-2008, 11:08 AM

Alright congrats!

SimonB · 10-27-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by professor

You know the rule Simon. Windfall gains must go towards mods - what do you have planned??

Haha, good one Professor. I'm considering some CF trim, in particular the rear diffuser, spoiler and internal trim.

SimonB · 10-27-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by amk2912

Yee Haah... After I read your post Simon I bolted down to my office and found a cheque from AutoClassic for $1,782.89!!!

Excellent, I suspected they'd mailed 'em all out at once.

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Originally Posted by amk2912

Dang..the wife's nicked it already!

Bugga! Maybe you can negotiate 10% or so? Any left?

Quote:

Originally Posted by amk2912

BTW, I wouldn't call it an early present from Mr Rudd....he's the mongrel who wanted to whack us the extra 8% in the first place!!!!

Yeah, I did consider that I had mislabelled the title. BUt what I wanted to put would have got me into trouble. Something like "Thieving bastards give back what they stole".

Timbo · 10-27-2008, 08:06 PM

OK... time for the NSW and Vic dealers to cough up.

10-27-2008, 05:21 AM	#1
SimonB 135 to 335 M Sport to X3 30d M Sport 164 Rep 1,788 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 30d, optioned up! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Perth, Western Australia iTrader: (0)	Early Christmas present from Mr Rudd... ... well, blow me down like a feather! I checked the letter box this afternoon and found this: Totally unexpected, I hadn't done anything to prompt it. I kind of was expecting it either as, although I'd ordered the 135i on the afternoon of budget night, I'd changed the order slightly and it was rewritten. Apologies for the quality, couldn't be bothered using the decent camera. The letter reads "Refund of overcharge of Luxury Car Tax on purchase if your motor car, detailed below, due to the 'budget night concession'. Your car was orderd before 7:30pm in the 13th May 2008". Maybe I should buy a lotto ticket? :thumbup: Cheers, Simon.... __________________ 2018 X3 30d, Carbon Black Metallic, M Sport Package, Panorama glass sunroof, Lumbar support, Instrument panel in Sensatec, Ambient Lightning, Harmon Kardon Surround Sound , Dynamic Damper Control
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10-27-2008, 05:45 AM	#2
Alext Banned 139 Rep 2,042 Posts Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest iTrader: (2)	Ahh that's excellent! I wish I didnt delay ordering mine a few weeks...I was humming and harring too much.
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10-27-2008, 05:59 AM	#3
2QIK4U Mike 2 Rep 103 Posts Drives: Join Date: Jun 2008 iTrader: (0)	Congratulations Simon. Mine was ordered 17 March way before budget night. A couple of weeks ago I sent a copy of the legislation to my dealer together with a refund request. Nothing has happened and follow up calls have not been returned. Now I can really put the pressure on. Thanks Mike...
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10-27-2008, 06:14 AM	#4
Breville Scum in the sun 30 Rep 938 Posts Drives: 135i Coupe TiAg Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Syndey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i Coupe [0.00]	I bought mine 4 weeks ago, does that mean I'll be in for the 'baby' bonus? I thought we were paying 33%? __________________ One should love animals. They are so tasty.
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10-27-2008, 06:33 AM	#5
SimonB 135 to 335 M Sport to X3 30d M Sport 164 Rep 1,788 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 30d, optioned up! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Perth, Western Australia iTrader: (0)	Mike, glad I could assist - good luck! __________________ 2018 X3 30d, Carbon Black Metallic, M Sport Package, Panorama glass sunroof, Lumbar support, Instrument panel in Sensatec, Ambient Lightning, Harmon Kardon Surround Sound , Dynamic Damper Control
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Breville Scum in the sun 30 Rep 938 Posts Drives: 135i Coupe TiAg Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Syndey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i Coupe [0.00]	Thanks Simon. Nah, I ordered mine 2 days before I bought it. How come you get the difference back then? Taxes go up; don't we just normally suffer that? Congrats to you though!! __________________ One should love animals. They are so tasty.
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SimonB 135 to 335 M Sport to X3 30d M Sport 164 Rep 1,788 Posts Drives: 2018 X3 30d, optioned up! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Perth, Western Australia iTrader: (0)	It's a long story mate, there's a thread here about the LCT increase. In a nutshell, an amendment was made at the last minute to allow exemptions to tourism operators and farmers (or some such) and also for it to not apply if you'd ordered the vehicle before budget night. The last one is the only sensible bit of the whole thing. Totally unexpected and a nice surprise! __________________ 2018 X3 30d, Carbon Black Metallic, M Sport Package, Panorama glass sunroof, Lumbar support, Instrument panel in Sensatec, Ambient Lightning, Harmon Kardon Surround Sound , Dynamic Damper Control
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10-27-2008, 07:32 AM	#12
DTNJNQ Captain 112 Rep 994 Posts Drives: M2, 135i, Xclass Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 135i [8.66]	The tax went through. There were some amendments to the law that will enable people who ordered their cars before the budget was announced to receive the 8% increase in LCT back even though they took deliver after 30 June 08.
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10-27-2008, 08:02 AM	#13
cozza ///Mthusiast 136 Rep 1,751 Posts Drives: M135i (March delivery) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	So, should I also expect a refund? I ordered back in April... __________________ ///M135i: AUTO \| ALPINE WHITE \| CORAL RED LEATHER \| HEATED SEATS \| SUNROOF \| NAV \| DAB TUNER \| HARMAN KARDON \| PERFORMANCE BITS 'N' PIECES
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10-27-2008, 08:14 AM	#15
cozza ///Mthusiast 136 Rep 1,751 Posts Drives: M135i (March delivery) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	Link isn't working... Does "contracts entered into for purchases or imports of a luxury car" include placing an order with a deposit? I don't think I signed a contract of sale until the car arrived. None of us signed a proper contract until we took delivery did we? __________________ ///M135i: AUTO \| ALPINE WHITE \| CORAL RED LEATHER \| HEATED SEATS \| SUNROOF \| NAV \| DAB TUNER \| HARMAN KARDON \| PERFORMANCE BITS 'N' PIECES
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10-27-2008, 09:20 AM	#17
professor Major 46 Rep 1,473 Posts Drives: Z4 M40i Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	You know the rule Simon. Windfall gains must go towards mods - what do you have planned??
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10-27-2008, 09:38 AM	#18
amk2912 Lieutenant Colonel 87 Rep 1,663 Posts Drives: '10 X5 40d & '12 F10 520d Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth iTrader: (0)	Yee Haah... After I read your post Simon I bolted down to my office and found a cheque from AutoClassic for $1,782.89!!! Dang..the wife's nicked it already! BTW, I wouldn't call it an early present from Mr Rudd....he's the mongrel who wanted to whack us the extra 8% in the first place!!!! __________________ 2012 BMW F10 520d M-Sport 2010 BMW E70 X5 xdrive40d
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10-27-2008, 11:08 AM	#19
RobLS Major 29 Rep 1,193 Posts Drives: M3 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Near Perpetual Rain iTrader: (0)	Alright congrats!
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10-27-2008, 08:06 PM	#22
Timbo First Lieutenant 4 Rep 302 Posts Drives: BMW 135 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	OK... time for the NSW and Vic dealers to cough up.
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