Brake Callipers - Blue Standard?

[Steveyballa22]

Hi - I am looking to buy a 2017 BMW X6 (F16) M Sport (Pro) TOMORROW. I am currently sorting the insurance and wanted to make sure that the brakes are factory brakes and not aftermarket. The callipers are blue - what BMW option would this be please? I have been searching all over and cant see where this would have been specked when car is new! Is it captured within the M Sport Pro pack - not many other X6’s in UK seem to have this (other than the X6m model which this is not!) Thanks so much in advance.

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Steveyballa22

Hi - I am looking to buy a 2017 BMW X6 (F16) M Sport (Pro) TOMORROW. I am currently sorting the insurance and wanted to make sure that the brakes are factory brakes and not aftermarket. The callipers are blue - what BMW option would this be please? I have been searching all over and cant see where this would have been specked when car is new! Is it captured within the M Sport Pro pack - not many other X6’s in UK seem to have this (other than the X6m model which this is not!) Thanks so much in advance.

M Performance brake kit. If you zoom into my wheel you will see it is blue. All 4 are blue…

[Steveyballa22]

Originally Posted by FCX5

M Performance brake kit. If you zoom into my wheel you will see it is blue. All 4 are blue…

Thanks so much for your quick response. I have not seen anywhere that this specific car has been specked with the M Performance Brake Kit (would it fall within M Sport Pro pack maybe?). Do you know what the ‘code’ / order reference would be so I can try and locate within VID search?

Thanks so much again !

[scotty339]

Originally Posted by Steveyballa22

Thanks so much for your quick response. I have not seen anywhere that this specific car has been specked with the M Performance Brake Kit (would it fall within M Sport Pro pack maybe?). Do you know what the ‘code’ / order reference would be so I can try and locate within VID search?

Thanks so much again !

I don't believe the M Performance brakes could be an option during ordering, only a dealer or shop add-on after delivery. The M Sport package does nothing for brake sizes. 35i to 50i has a front and rear size increase, but not M Perform level.

PN 34112348054

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/34112348054/

Lots of pictures to use to match up and see if those are the calipers you have.

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by scotty339

I don't believe the M Performance brakes could be an option, only a dealer or shop addon after delivery.

PN 34112348054

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/34112348054/

Yes. Mine was installed by the dealer. It wasn't an option for the car from what I can tell.

[Steveyballa22]

Originally Posted by FCX5

Yes. Mine was installed by the dealer. It wasn't an option for the car from what I can tell.

Thanks again - the dealer (BMW Approved Used sales executive) is telling me it's part of the M Sport Pro pack. Could that be the case ?

This is make or break if I buy the car (the insurance is sky high if I say modded brakes!)

Thanks

[RED_Y_]

Originally Posted by Steveyballa22

Thanks again - the dealer (BMW Approved Used sales executive) is telling me it's part of the M Sport Pro pack. Could that be the case ?

This is make or break if I buy the car (the insurance is sky high if I say modded brakes!)

Thanks

Possible since the UK options are slightly different from USA, do you see anything like it if you run the VIN through the decoder?I see such a package for 4-series
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...t-package-pro/
But I have never heard of M sport pro for F15. One way or another these are not "modded", these are factory BMW brakes.

[Steveyballa22]

Originally Posted by RED_Y_

Possible since the UK options are slightly different from USA, do you see anything like it if you run the VIN through the decoder?

Okay thanks - haven't seen much in the VIN decoder. Is there one you would recommend and is there a specific item I should look out for ? Thanks

[scotty339]

https://www.mdecoder.com/

Give it a line by line... it should be self explanatory. Something about brakes probably or this M Sport Pro, which Ive never heard of (not a NA thing)


or post the VIN here and I'll give it a once over.

[1norseman]

Originally Posted by Steveyballa22

Thanks again - the dealer (BMW Approved Used sales executive) is telling me it's part of the M Sport Pro pack. Could that be the case ?

This is make or break if I buy the car (the insurance is sky high if I say modded brakes!)

Thanks

I would have a dealership take a look at the brake calipers, and if they are BMW parts or not. As long as they are OEM BMW BBK, I'd claim not modded.
Here is a link to the BMW BBK with pictures. Check if yours looks like it?
https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...uine-bmw-part/

Anyway, modded brakes making insurance sky high; It sounds like some socialist bureaucratic bullshit regulations created by people with small.... minds. We just celebrated the reason we split from that...

Good luck figuring it out!

[JMAN1111]

The insurance should be happy with the increased performance with the stopping power

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by 1norseman

I would have a dealership take a look at the brake calipers, and if they are BMW parts or not. As long as they are OEM BMW BBK, I'd claim not modded.
Here is a link to the BMW BBK with pictures. Check if yours looks like it?
https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...uine-bmw-part/

Anyway, modded brakes making insurance sky high; It sounds like some socialist bureaucratic bullshit regulations created by people with small.... minds. We just celebrated the reason we split from that...

Good luck figuring it out!

Given that an insurance company is a private company that exists to make a profit. Do you even know what socialism means? Also, on 4th of July we don't celebrate independence from socialism. The sheer ignorance and pride with that ignorance are mind-boggling sometimes...

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by FCX5

Given that an insurance company is a private company that exists to make a profit. Do you even know what socialism means? Also, on 4th of July we don't celebrate independence from socialism. The sheer ignorance and pride with that ignorance are mind-boggling sometimes...

Excellent retort.. 🙌🏻

This reminds me of folks on Bimmerpost and YouTube whom ignorantly proclaim that their Freedom of Speech is impeded, when their content is removed by the admin.

I don't believe that upholding your incendiary post on a private social media platform is what Madison was envisioning when he enshrine those rights into the US Constitution.

So answer the OP's question, only the M Sport ('M Performance' in the ROW) brakes are the color blue. The standard brakes are the color gray (no paint).

[Ascotgrun]

Either way they are still BMW brakes so I wouldn't stress about whether they were installed at the factory or at the dealer.

Also, don't rule out the possibility that a previous owner just painted the standard calipers blue.

My next project is to paint my calipers and no, I won't be telling my insurance company about the "modification".

[TheUltimateDrivingManiac]

Originally Posted by Steveyballa22

The callipers are blue - what BMW option would this be please?

BMW option for M-brakes is 02NH, though, as it was mentioned before, it was not available from factory, but only as OEM upgrade. I'm not sure what's UK's insurance stance on this.

[1norseman]

Originally Posted by FCX5

Given that an insurance company is a private company that exists to make a profit. Do you even know what socialism means? Also, on 4th of July we don't celebrate independence from socialism. The sheer ignorance and pride with that ignorance are mind-boggling sometimes...

Originally Posted by Poochie

Excellent retort.. 🙌🏻

This reminds me of folks on Bimmerpost and YouTube whom ignorantly proclaim that their Freedom of Speech is impeded, when their content is removed by the admin.

I don't believe that upholding your incendiary post on a private social media platform is what Madison was envisioning when he enshrine those rights into the US Constitution.

So answer the OP's question, only the M Sport ('M Performance' in the ROW) brakes are the color blue. The standard brakes are the color gray (no paint).

Well, that got serious quick! Someone just had to read my post, and post a reply to make sure I don't believe I'm a Jesus...

It was tongue in cheek, I added a after my message because I was joking about the craziness of the situation, not getting into a history nor political lesson.. (I also have a feeling I know what socialism is, quite better than you do, and 4th of July is not about that, unless you consider the British Empire, a quasi socialistic form of government in how they demanded loyalty and taxed the colonies, to further the central government in London)

My point was that Europe has in many ways become so limited in their way of looking at things, where even improving something is not considered an improvement, and has to be fined and regulated...

Yes, insurance companies are private, but do you see private insurance companies here in the US, making a big stink about improved brakes being considered a bigger risk, and needing a higher premium?
Maybe they do, but I have never heard of it.
Also, if an insurance company has that policy here, there will likely be another one that doesn't by catering to enthusiasts. Lots of freedom of choice, and I don't see OP mentioning other insurance companies...

Maybe OP is able to find another insurance company that does not have the modded brake stipulations, or maybe they all are like that. We don't know...

All we know is that he's worried about possibly better brakes on a vehicle, might get him trouble with his insurance company, and they can possibly increase his premiums to be "sky high", if he buys the vehicle.
That's pretty effed up...

[Ascotgrun]

I can't recall any insurance company not asking if a car they are covering has been modified. Sure better brakes would be safer, but not if better brakes are being installed because the car will be driven faster etc.

They only care about potential risk.

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by Ascotgrun

I can't recall any insurance company not asking if a car they are covering has been modified. Sure better brakes would be safer, but not if better brakes are being installed because the car will be driven faster etc.

They only care about potential risk.

I've never been asked if my car was modded. Ever. And increasing brake (safety performance) is not what they had in mind anyway. Do you have to tell them if you've installed better windshield wipers? That's a performance mod….Another win for America I guess. Haha JK. Please don't get mad. It was a joke.

Also, they're an oem option. Not an aftermarket upgrade. They don't come from factory because they are from the E70 X5M and just happen to fit the F15 hub.

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Maverik259

I've never been asked if my car was modded. Ever. And increasing brake (safety performance) is not what they had in mind anyway. Do you have to tell them if you've installed better windshield wipers? That's a performance mod….Another win for America I guess. Haha JK. Please don't get mad. It was a joke.

Also, they're an oem option. Not an aftermarket upgrade. They don't come from factory because they are from the E70 X5M and just happen to fit the F15 hub.

MPBK don't increase insurance costs. I have it on mine. I have Geico. Was never asked about it.

[Maverik259]

Originally Posted by FCX5

MPBK don't increase insurance costs. I have it on mine. I have Geico. Was never asked about it.

What American insurance companies ask if your brakes are modded?