New M4 body style when?

[Daiz4yota]

When do you guys think they will be revamping the M4 body style? Im not super familiar with the history and Im just wondering because I won't likely be purchasing one for another 12 months. Would hate to buy a new one if the next model was about to be released. I know its impossible to say for sure but just wondering what the "cycle" usually is

[mkoesel]

It's actually not hard to estimate this. There's typically a seven year lifespan for any given BMW model. M models trail the introduction of the series car they are based on so they don't get the full seven years of production, but they do retain the seven year cycle.

So, given that the current M4 launched in 2014, the next one should be here in 2021.

If you were wondering about the LCI for the current model, it should be early 2017, which is 3.5 years into the 4 Series model run.

[fernande-bmw]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

If you were wondering about the LCI for the current model, it should be early 2017, which is 3.5 years into the model run.

I agree with your timeline based on prior production cycles. However, I am confused with the MY2016 M3 and M4 changes from July 2015.

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The F80 M3 sedan also receives the following F30 interior/exterior Lifecycle Impulse (LCI) measures.

• New Rear LED Lights
• Door accents according to trim accent (similar to 3 Series GT and 4-Series Models)
• Ambient lighting surrounding the center-stack

The following interior changes, which come as part of the F30 LCI, apply to both the M3 and M4:

• Chrome Accents surrounding the Front and Rear Air vents
• Chrome Accent near buttons for electric windows
• Improved Navigation Unit: new hardware, better performance, faster start-up of navigation and Voice Command, navigation map update over the air, more realistic presentation of city details
• Improved Child Seat handling
• Center-stack changes:
  • Pearlescent chrome applications for radio/climate control
  • Revised Automatic climate control display: white (vs. orange)

"

Is this not a true LCI? Should there be one coming in 2016 or 2017?

I ask because I am on the same boat. I am thinking of ordering an M3 during 2016. If there is a refresh coming mid 2016 or 2017, then I may want to delay that order.

Thanks!

[///Pip]

- BMW F30 (3 series) was launched in late 2011 as a 2012 model
- All new 3 Series model will be launched in 2019

- BMW F32 (4 series) was launched in mid 2013 as a 2014 model
- All new 4 Series model will be launched in 2021

- BMW F8x (M3 and M4) was launched in February 2014 as a 2014 model
- All new M3 & M4 will be launched in 2021

As you can see ... the 3 series (which the M3 is based on) will be replaced earliest (Sometime in 2019). So by 2019 ... you will see brand new 3 series on the road while your M3 will still be of the previous generation.

So if you want model longevity (at least in terms of exterior shape) ... get the M4.

Alternatively, sell your new M3 by 2019 ... that's if you care a lot about driving "last generation" car ... but then again you'll be missing the point of driving ///M car ...

[Blindside_137]

Originally Posted by Daiz4yota

When do you guys think they will be revamping the M4 body style? Im not super familiar with the history and Im just wondering because I won't likely be purchasing one for another 12 months. Would hate to buy a new one if the next model was about to be released. I know its impossible to say for sure but just wondering what the "cycle" usually is

The car will get updated rear tail lights probably around model year 2018.

The new 4 series won't be out until about model year 2021

The completely redesigned M4 won't be out til model year 2022

These are best guesses based on the last generation. So relax, you have plenty of time. This car has just barely started its second year of life, and typically it has a 5 year model year span.

[Daiz4yota]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

It's actually not hard to estimate this. There's typically a seven year lifespan for any given BMW model. M models trail the introduction of the series car they are based on so they don't get the full seven years of production, but they do retain the seven year cycle.

So, given that the current M4 launched in 2014, the next one should be here in 2021.

If you were wondering about the LCI for the current model, it should be early 2017, which is 3.5 years into the model run.

Hmm interesting. I would likely be placing an order in March/April of 2017, so that might actually work out for LCI. Thanks!

[SakhirM4]

Originally Posted by ///Pip

- BMW F30 (3 series) was launched in late 2011 as a 2012 model
- All new 3 Series model will be launched in 2019

- BMW F32 (4 series) was launched in mid 2013 as a 2014 model
- All new 4 Series model will be launched in 2021

- BMW F8x (M3 and M4) was launched in February 2014 as a 2014 model
- All new M3 & M4 will be launched in 2021

As you can see ... the 3 series (which the M3 is based on) will be replaced earliest (Sometime in 2019). So by 2019 ... you will see brand new 3 series on the road while your M3 will still be of the previous generation.

So if you want model longevity (at least in terms of exterior shape) ... get the M4.

Alternatively, sell your new M3 by 2019 ... that's if you care a lot about driving "last generation" car ... but then again you'll be missing the point of driving ///M car ...

These were 2015 models in the U.S. My 2015 M4 was built in July 2014.

[///Pip]

Originally Posted by SakhirM4

These were 2015 models in the U.S. My 2015 M4 was built in July 2014.

Thanks for the update

It's 2014 model year in my side of the world ... first deliveries were July/August 2014

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by fernande-bmw

I agree with your timeline based on prior production cycles. However, I am confused with the MY2016 M3 and M4 changes from July 2015.

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Is this not a true LCI? Should there be one coming in 2016 or 2017?

Each series gets its own LCI (*) half way through its production run. Typically, odd-numbered series launch at least a year before their even-numbered siblings, so their LCIs are also staggered by the same amount of time. This means that the 3 Series LCI and 4 Series LCI occur at different times. What came this year was the 3 Series and M3 LCI. The 4 Series and M4 LCI is yet to come (in 2017, as I said earlier).

Now, as you point out, some changes that come at LCI time actually span across to models that are not receiving their LCI but share a platform with models that are. This is generally the case for any parts shared across those models that are being updated, since it usually doesn't make sense to have two different parts to do the same thing. This goes both ways by the way, so there may very well be minor changes to the 3/M3 at the time of the 4/M4 LCI just as the opposite was true.

(*) Actually, even that is a bit of an oversimplification now that we have models like the 3 Series GT. For this vehicle, even though it is a 3 Series, they delayed the LCI until next year. But in general sedan/touring get LCI at the same time, as do coupe/convertible/Gran Coupe.

I ask because I am on the same boat. I am thinking of ordering an M3 during 2016. If there is a refresh coming mid 2016 or 2017, then I may want to delay that order.

Any changes to the M3 at the time of the M4 LCI are likely to be very minor. Bear in mind that there are small changes made throughout the model run, often times with every new model year or even more frequently than that. The updates that cross over to the M3 when the M4 gets its LCI will probably be roughly in line with that type of evolutionary change.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ///Pip

- BMW F32 (4 series) was launched in mid 2013 as a 2014 model
- All new 4 Series model will be launched in 2021

I disagree since 2013 + 7 = 2020. So calendar year 2020 as MY2021

M4 a year after that in 2021 as MY2022, assuming M Division sticks to the same quick turn around.

[nujabes24]

Omg I can't wait till 2021 WTH

Originally Posted by ///Pip

- BMW F30 (3 series) was launched in late 2011 as a 2012 model
- All new 3 Series model will be launched in 2019

- BMW F32 (4 series) was launched in mid 2013 as a 2014 model
- All new 4 Series model will be launched in 2021

- BMW F8x (M3 and M4) was launched in February 2014 as a 2014 model
- All new M3 & M4 will be launched in 2021

As you can see ... the 3 series (which the M3 is based on) will be replaced earliest (Sometime in 2019). So by 2019 ... you will see brand new 3 series on the road while your M3 will still be of the previous generation.

So if you want model longevity (at least in terms of exterior shape) ... get the M4.

Alternatively, sell your new M3 by 2019 ... that's if you care a lot about driving "last generation" car ... but then again you'll be missing the point of driving ///M car ...

[Bluex]

2021???

Enjoy your M's now boys and girls......

(I need to stop watching The Walking Dead and playing Fallout 4)

[SamS]

Originally Posted by nujabes24

Omg I can't wait till 2021 WTH

M3/M4 have been on the market for just a bit longer than a year.. it's a brand new car, why are you expecting a replacement so soon?

[snareman]

So my plan is to do an ED on an M4 next ~September. Being a 2017 model will it have LCI updates? And, if I do a 4 year lease (I've never done one, but buying and selling the car can be a pain so I'm considering it depending on hos the cost goes) should that get me to the next model?

[SamS]

Originally Posted by snareman

So my plan is to do an ED on an M4 next ~September. Being a 2017 model will it have LCI updates? And, if I do a 4 year lease (I've never done one, but buying and selling the car can be a pain so I'm considering it depending on hos the cost goes) should that get me to the next model?

Nope. MY2018 for M4 LCI.

[Blindside_137]

Originally Posted by SamS

Nope. MY2018 for M4 LCI.

Yes

The key is the difference between calendar year and model year, which I think is what most people get confused.

We can anticipate the LCI around summer 2017 when the 2018 model year M4's begin production.