08-31-2014, 02:24 PM | #1 |
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M4 vs 1M vs M5
So after selling my AW 1M about a year ago after owning it since new, I feel I may want to come back and play. I'm currently looking at either a 1M with budget left for goodies, a new M4, or a 2013/2014 M5. I know that all three are totally different cars and not often cross shopped. My only stipulation is that the back seat must have room for my two kids- 3 year old and 9 week old. Having driven back 1,000 miles from picking up my 1M in Connecticut with my son when he was 8 weeks old, I know it is doable.
I like the 1M because the rarity, looks and everything else you read about in the reviews. I also jump between cars every 2 years or so, and it will retain its value much better than the other two. I like the M4 for the lines, interior, and the fact I can spec it out how I like it. I'll be testing one out this week so I will see if it is still on my list afterwards. The M5 was not originally on my list but after testing one out in anger yesterday, it made me smile and giggle the whole test drive. There is just something cool about something that big going that fast. In sport plus the DCT is downright wicked and it moves out like few things I have ever driven. I don't like however that there is a new one on the horizon and I don't know if the novelty of its acceleration will where off when I can't really chuck it into the corners like the others on my list. If I went 1M, I'd add full akra evo, KW V3, RB upgraded turbos (not sure if any other options are out since I left), and some ADV.1 wheels. Would also add a CF lip and diffuser from Revo. If I went M4 I'd add some H&R springs, Meisterschaft GT2, and maybe some wheels when offsets are better known. If I went M5, it would have similar mods as the M4, it would just have to be spaced out since my piggy bank would be empty after the purchase. |
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I still say 1M, that care made me smile more than the M3 on the test drive...
with that being said, the 1M is not worth it right now.
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Also, if you are truly focused on outright performance, which it seems you are according to your mod wishlist, the M3/M4 offers much better performance out of the box. Everything a stock 1M does, the M3/M4 seems to do much better....that and the 1M's N54 engine wasn't really designed for track work (no dry sump). my 2 cents.... |
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08-31-2014, 05:55 PM | #5 |
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M4 is the intersection of M5 and 1M.
It's both cars, in the same time. So, M4. (Without any mods though. )
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Well I have owned all of these cars........... Here's my 2p worth...
I had the 1M for just about 3 years it was an amazing car a car that got you noticed if that's what you were wanting and a great car to have fun in.... I loved it but it was becoming a bit too small for my family...... I have two boys 16 and 12... They were always complaining about having to climb in the back when I picked them up and my wife always twisted if she had to get out to let one of them in when it was raining..... So the thoughts ran through my head we need a bigger car...... I was at the wrong place at the wrong time.... Oh dear I was about to find out........ I was at the dealers to get a paint stick for the 1M and they had just pulled in a n M5... It looked great and the price was good too... We took it for a spin and I wanted it..... So I bought it.... I had original ordered an M3 for July delivery but with buying this I canceled the order... Buying the M5 for me was a huge mistake, it was an amazing car with everything you could think of and the speed was mind blowing... But it was just too big, I never felt comfortable driving it and was always on edge when parking it up and leaving it... I just was not happy with it.... So a trip to the dealer again to get a paint stick of the M5 as I caught the drivers mirror a little... ( see a trend here).... And I got speaking to the sales man I ordered the M3 with and bought the M5 off... He said look that is the M3 you ordered... I thought wow... They had changed the colour from YAS to MW and I loved it... So now toying with the idea of the m3.... He threw me the keys to his Black demo M3 and said go take it for a spin... I had my son with me and we both just loved it.... Took it back and said ok I want it work a price out on it... He gave me the demo M3 for all day and it was perfect for everything I needed... So I ended up loosing about £17,000 on the M5 as I only had it from new 4 month.... But I love the M3 it reminds me so much of the 1M just with more room.... I think I will be keeping this a little longer the the M5....... Well my wife said I have to or she will divorce me.... Haha In my opinion go for the M4 or M3 you will not regret it
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Now, if we are through with the merits of modifications tangent, lets continue with the original topic if someone has input related to that. |
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If you want to drive the next 50-60k miles without worrying about grenading your engine or failing emissions testing, then the m4 would be a better option. I also think that selling your 1M, at a premium, and buying a M4 or M3 would make more financial sense than continuing to mod what is inherently a car with less performance. Quote:
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By comparison, the only difference between the 1M's N54 and a regular E9X 335i's N54 is that the 1M received a tune and a secondary radiator and oil cooling unit. The N54 was not designed with track use in mind. Rather after BMW saw the cooling problems in the early N54 engines, they incorporated the additional cooling as a quick "fix." The S55 is an engine suited for track work, the N54 needs a bit more work and mods to keep it track worthy. Quote:
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http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1019314 So far as the N54 vs S55 on track we know nothing of the S55's longevity yet but with proper cooling they should both be very similar. Not knocking the M4 , at all its a better car than the 1M , its just not really close to being track ready either. That is not BMW's focus anymore unfortunately. My friend just ran a 2:09 on the VIR full course on stock brakes and PSS tires in his bone stock C7 Z51 vette. Another member just posted his best time of 2:15 on the VIR full course with 275 square RA1's and aftermarket pads on a M4. The C7 is a track ready car including a fully adjustable front and rear suspension , the M4 is a great street car that you can take to the track. The advantage of the 1m currently if you want a modern BMW track car is it has a ton of aftermarket parts to make it seriously track capable. |
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Guys I'm liking the good info. Keep it coming. I want to like the M4 enough to get it but two things are throwing me- 1) The M4 spec'd to what I want is $71k. The 1M I can find for around $55-58k. 2) The depreciation on the M4 could be much worse than the 1M, depending on what the M2 does to the 1M.
And dammit, the M5 is still a cool ride with all the bells and whistles and in a league different than the other two in regards to materials, features, etc. I have no freaking idea which one I want. Why oh why can't I be happy with a Honda or Toyota and drive it until the wheels fall off..... |
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I think every knows that the M4 is not as track focused as a corvette or 911, but we are not comparing the M4 to either of those cars...we are comparing it to the 1M and M5. The M4's S55 is a much improved version of the N54 and has so far proven to be much more capable around the track. If you are worried about mod availability...give it a few months. The M4 has just hit the markets...I'm sure the aftermarket will starting putting out M4-specific parts shortly. |
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Aftermarket parts for M4 will be much more expensive than those for a 1M.
If car purpose includes regular track use than get the 1M as maintenance cost would be lower and more fun in a short wheelbase car. I can't understand why you need other people to convince you which car to buy as you the ONE driving it and you have driven all of them. |
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Btw, many of the bells and whistles on the M5 are now available on the M3/4. HUD (I can't live without it now), lane departure warning, collision warning and all the cameras and parking sensors (I think). I believe it's lacking soft-close doors, butt massage, ventilated seats and the foot-operated trunk lid. I sat in the new M3 at a dealership when I was having some service done on my M5 and I was impressed with the cabin and the seats. If it had been available when I bought my M5 I would have had a tougher decision. But, on the whole the M5 is just a notch above and now I'm spoiled. |
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I saw a blue M3 today on the street and it looks nice. To fit a small family it would be perfect. |
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I think you mean test drive, unless there is something new that I don't know about...
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As for which one is more fun (1M or M4) that's entirely subjective. |
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