E90Post
 


Extreme Powerhouse
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Help==(



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-05-2013, 04:56 PM   #1
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

Arrow Help==(

I went to the dealer with wastgate ratle and they told me its the wastegate actuator which i believe. but their saying its not covered under the 8 years 82k extended warranty anyone have any input on that. help please===

Last edited by solow; 03-05-2013 at 05:16 PM..
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2013, 05:01 PM   #2
08E60535iLCI
Enlisted Member
08E60535iLCI's Avatar
0
Rep
48
Posts

Drives: 08 535i
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Seattle

iTrader: (0)

If its covered then why worry about it, unless you got more then 88K miles?
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2013, 05:14 PM   #3
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

Their saying the wastegate actuators are not cover under the warranty?
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2013, 10:50 PM   #4
tmo24
Major
tmo24's Avatar
United_States
139
Rep
1,271
Posts

Drives: 2007 BMW 335i e92
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Las Vegas

iTrader: (3)

I had mine go in and they said they had to replace the actuators first under warranty before touching the turbos. Then they ended up just replacing both turbos. I was at 81k miles. Go to a different dealer or call bmwna and ask for clarification.
__________________
2007 335i Jet Black e92 6AT - VRSF Full street exhaust DP, Chargepipe 7.5 FMIC, MHD, XHP, Koni orange/Eibachs, some other stuff

2007 335i Jet Black e90 6MT - Eibachs, magnaflow exhaust, carbon hood, short shift kit, some other random stuff - being sold somewhere sometime soon probably

2010 335i AW e90 6 AT Msport - The GF took this one over... JB4, PE exhaust, Koni yellows/Eibachs, pink badges, fuzzy steering wheel cover ?
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2013, 11:11 PM   #5
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

their really starting to piss me off
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2013, 11:13 PM   #6
Wes335XI
Lieutenant
Wes335XI's Avatar
107
Rep
400
Posts

Drives: 2008 335XI Space Grey
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Anchorage, AK

iTrader: (0)

Sounds like my dealer. Bunch of assholes.
__________________
08 E92 335XI - Space Grey/Coral Red 11.80 @ 118.95mph - 470AWHP
2013 BMW 335XI MSport Alpine White/Venetian Beige
2018 WRX STi TypeRA
2022 X5 MSport Alpine White/Tartufo Merino - Inbound
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2013, 11:14 PM   #7
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

i just have no idea how to prove they have to cover the wastegate actuators
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2013, 11:26 PM   #8
Evochuck
Lieutenant
69
Rep
404
Posts

Drives: 335xi 09
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (2)

Have them replace the actuators but clarify that if the issue persists they will need to replace the turbos under warranty AND reimburse the previous repair.
Appreciate 0
      03-05-2013, 11:34 PM   #9
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

they want 3 g's for the freaken actuators
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 02:49 AM   #10
BillionPa
Second Lieutenant
BillionPa's Avatar
2
Rep
288
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

SI B01 02 12

N54 Engine Turbocharger (Wastegates Only): Emissions Warranty Extension to 8
Years/82,000 Miles

E90, E92, E93 (MY 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010): 335i including xDrive

BMW NA has agreed to extend, to a total of 8 years or 82,000 miles, whichever comes first, the emissions warranties covering the Settlement Class Members’ vehicles for any failure of a turbocharger caused by a defect in a turbocharger wastegate

A slight rattle noise is considered normal operation of the mechanical wastegate valve and is not a failure of the part. No repair should be attempted for this type of rattling complaint.

If the noise is described as a clanking noise occurring up to six or seven times in a row during a deceleration from approximately 3,500 RPM, or during a heavy application of the accelerator without a drive gear being engaged, then continue with the procedures described in this document.

The existing warranty coverage for all other parts has not changed.


...... if they consider the actuator part of the wastegate, then yes it is covered, but only if they consider it part of the wastegate

also, any aftermarket software or hardware controlling or modifying boost pressure will void the extended warranty
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 08:00 AM   #11
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

they do the wastegate actuator is inside the wastegate it opens and closes it ahh freaken assholes
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 11:02 AM   #12
Evochuck
Lieutenant
69
Rep
404
Posts

Drives: 335xi 09
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by m54 View Post
they want 3 g's for the freaken actuators
That looks like the price of full turbo replacements!
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 11:06 AM   #13
Mike@N54Tuning.com
Joint Chiefs of Staff
Canada
4927
Rep
116,006
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: N54tuning.com

iTrader: (89)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evochuck View Post
That looks like the price of full turbo replacements!
I think it is as each turbo is about 700-800 so the rest is 10 hours of labour which makes sense.

Mike
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 11:18 AM   #14
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

ill be sticking my boot up their ass when i go up there today--this is insane istead of having it covered under warranty they trow me for a loop and bring this bs on me.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 12:27 PM   #15
BMWM.D.
Stupid Idiot
BMWM.D.'s Avatar
134
Rep
827
Posts

Drives: E90 335i & 6th Gen ZL1
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Santa Barbara

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by m54
they do the wastegate actuator is inside the wastegate it opens and closes it ahh freaken assholes
The wastegate actuator is NOT inside the turbo. They are an external part that bolts on the outside and moves the wastegate valve inside the turbo housing.

The extended turbo warranty covers turbocharger replacement, if needed. The actuator replacement/ adjustment would be a different story. If there is mechanical wear in the actual wastegate valve that is causing boost issues, that would be covered.

The issue is that the turbos need to be removed to properly measure the wastegate wear. I doubt the dealership is going to do that unless you agree to pay the labor if no turbo replacement is needed.

Sure, the dealer could bullshit BMW and just give you new turbos. That isn't really fair, either.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 10:47 PM   #16
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWM.D. View Post
The wastegate actuator is NOT inside the turbo. They are an external part that bolts on the outside and moves the wastegate valve inside the turbo housing.

The extended turbo warranty covers turbocharger replacement, if needed. The actuator replacement/ adjustment would be a different story. If there is mechanical wear in the actual wastegate valve that is causing boost issues, that would be covered.

The issue is that the turbos need to be removed to properly measure the wastegate wear. I doubt the dealership is going to do that unless you agree to pay the labor if no turbo replacement is needed.

Sure, the dealer could bullshit BMW and just give you new turbos. That isn't really fair, either.


agreed.but 3gs for $100 worth of parts to be installed is kind of insane for any bmw owner to pay.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 11:03 PM   #17
Tiago@VRSF
Tiago@VRSF's Avatar
United_States
2097
Rep
43,350
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Doral, FL

iTrader: (99)

Garage List
Go to a different dealer. It honestly sounds like they're giving you the run around.
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 11:04 PM   #18
solow
Just to sweet
United_States
20
Rep
249
Posts

Drives: 07 335i
Join Date: May 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

will their warranty denial be in the computer if another dealer pulls my vin>?
Appreciate 0
      03-06-2013, 11:24 PM   #19
Tiago@VRSF
Tiago@VRSF's Avatar
United_States
2097
Rep
43,350
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Doral, FL

iTrader: (99)

Garage List
I can't say in this situation but if the warranty was denied due to aftermarket parts it will definitely be noted in there. Can't hurt to give it a shot though.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:14 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST