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      09-21-2022, 04:06 PM   #1
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So you thought your Gxx was heavy... check out the new AMG C63s platform

Interesting video on the new AMG C63s platform:
Not sure what to make of this as it's just based
on the spec of the new range without any real driving feedback, but Jesus the weight penalty seems next level.
My initial thoughts on this new line of 2:0l AMG are pretty negative. As much as I appreciate the need for change and the move towards electric/hybrid type sports cars I can't get where this type of car fits in.
The C Class AMG IMO only had one thing going for it, the engine. Styling of course is subjective but the overall quality (especially the interior) always came across as budget. To me the Fxx M cars were always more aligned with the E class in terms of fit and finish, even though the tech dated very quickly in the later years compared to Merc.
But the handling/chassis on M cars compared to Merc or Audi has always been more important for me.
But this new generation of AMG just seems the same old platform that's being dragged into some kind of Frankenstein stop-gap of a car enabling Mercedes to run the factory's for a few more years without any major cost implications other than drivetrain tweaks.
One thing I do appreciate more however is how It makes me thankful BMW (although not perfect by any means) had the balls to develop the car I'm driving today. Actually I think the Gxx M cars were/are ahead of their time and all the negativity around the weight increase seems a small price to pay for owning a 3:0l twin turbo M car (with 4 real exhaust pipes)


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So you thought your Gxx was heavy..

I've had two AMG's and they were great at providing that v8 emotion. Great luxury muscle cruisers but known to be porky.

I think this c63 is going to be the guinea pig for other manufacturers within the segment. They're taking a huge risk but it's understandable and inevitable that EV is going to be integrated in some way. Heck, Porsche's next Cayman is rumored to be EV. It's an interesting time…
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      10-12-2022, 02:25 PM   #4
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At that point, I would rather get a fully electric car than a performance 4 cylinder
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I've had two AMG's and they were great at providing that v8 emotion. Great luxury muscle cruisers but known to be porky.

I think this c63 is going to be the guinea pig for other manufacturers within the segment. They're taking a huge risk but it's understandable and inevitable that EV is going to be integrated in some way. Heck, Porsche's next Cayman is rumored to be EV. It's an interesting time…
I can’t see who in the world would buy this car other than diehard MB fanbois.

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At that point, I would rather get a fully electric car than a performance 4 cylinder
100% this.
There is nothing attractive to anyone who might be interested in this vehicle about this engine setup. They should have just delayed until they can go full electric. I don’t care how fast it is. It won’t be fast enough.
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The engineers and emissions police won this battle at Merc over anyone with common sense ... people will buy this thing, no doubt, but not anyone who's in the market for an M3 or comparable Audi.

I wonder how badly Mercedes is failing to hit the Euro emissions standards. Last I checked their fleet average is <25mpg v 30mpg for BMW and presumably higher for the VW group with the gazillion Taycans flying off the shelves (plus VW EVs)
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