[ScullyD]

I've started monitoring my oil temp more, and it seems like my car could be getting hotter than i would expect. I'm just driving on street, and i'm seeing the gauge over the 1/4 hash mark.

Whats the temp you guys are seeing on your M2 CS when its fully warm and driven enthusiastic on street?

[medphysdave]

I'll need to check. Haven't looked at it. I'm trying to blow it up while under warranty.

[sdhotwn]

Trying to remember the exact numbers, and it changes a bit with which mode you are in. But over the 1/4 mark is just getting warmed up. 170 or so is what I recall being nominal. Really doesn't seem to move from that even in hard track use.

[ROASTM]

Mine (although a M2C) always sits a tad over the 1/4 mark unless really pushing it - when in SPORT+, it sits right on that first mark.

[Got f1?]

Typical is 208*F-220*F (ish) depending on mode, etc. At least according to the indication on steering wheel. Obviously fully warmed up.

On track it can get a bit higher but not much.

[sdhotwn]

Originally Posted by Got f1?

Typical is 208*F-220*F (ish) depending on mode, etc. At least according to the indication on steering wheel. Obviously fully warmed up.

On track it can get a bit higher but not much.

That's super interesting as I'm pretty darn sure the dash indicator never shows over 200. I'll have to watch closer!

[CC3586]

I had monitored mine the other day on my LED steering wheel .

Water temperature 104°C
Oil temperature is 108°C
Outside air temperature is around 18°C

After normal 30 minutes highway & city drive in sport mode, in sport plus when the extra cooler start working the water temperature drop to 85°C in 5 minutes oil temperature is just under 100°C.

Both water & oil temperature is higher than m2 competition in same condition.

[ChiTownM]

Originally Posted by CC3586

I had monitored mine the other day on my LED steering wheel .

Water temperature 104°C
Oil temperature is 108°C
Outside air temperature is around 18°C

After normal 30 minutes highway & city drive in sport mode, in sport plus when the extra cooler start working the water temperature drop to 85°C in 5 minutes oil temperature is just under 100°C.

Both water & oil temperature is higher than m2 competition in same condition.

I have been contemplating getting the steering wheel, but I have a manual and was wondering if the shift lights work for a manual as well?

On the ZOP subject, i can confirm that i tend to be above the quarter mark for sure and more towards the middle when you drive aggressively.

[CC3586]

Originally Posted by ChiTownM

I have been contemplating getting the steering wheel, but I have a manual and was wondering if the shift lights work for a manual as well?

On the ZOP subject, i can confirm that i tend to be above the quarter mark for sure and more towards the middle when you drive aggressively.

The features I use most frequently is temperature gauge.

[Got f1?]

Originally Posted by ChiTownM

I have been contemplating getting the steering wheel, but I have a manual and was wondering if the shift lights work for a manual as well?

On the ZOP subject, i can confirm that i tend to be above the quarter mark for sure and more towards the middle when you drive aggressively.

I have the wheel on my 6spd. Works great.

[Got f1?]

Originally Posted by sdhotwn

That's super interesting as I'm pretty darn sure the dash indicator never shows over 200. I'll have to watch closer!

The factory one in dash can be tricky to read since it is not reading digits.

[///MPhatic]

Just this morning I asked our resident oil expert edycol about this.

In doing research when I first bought the car I found that 185° was the magic number where I could give the car a bit of stick, but that ultimately I needed to wait until 200° to really drive it hard.

edycol confirmed that it really should get to 180° before full attack.

I plan to keep the car for a long time, so I'm still sticking to the 200°.

I don't have a CS...yet, but the same will hold true.

[Jimjamz]

As mentioned earlier in this thread, note your throttle mode will directly impact the engine's oil temp. There's over a 10 degree difference with efficient mode coming in close to 10 degrees higher than sports plus.

[gmhl10]

This is why I love this forum. I had no idea the oil temps differ based on what mode your in.

[MooMooM2]

I feel like comfort and sport are very close, oil temp goes up at about the same rate, sport + takes more time obviously so I never kick it into sport + until its already up to temp

[Jimjamz]

An interesting post from an earlier forum post for the S55 in the F80.

I wish I could find my old videos of this in action from my oled mpe steering wheel. It was beautiful to watch this in action on your digital readout. I fell in love with M cars when I appreciated what kind of cooling was required to do this in seconds.

[Got f1?]

Much of this comes from balancing efficiency with performance. Higher temps thin the oil making the engine slightly more efficient. Lower temps through better cooling provide better protection but less efficient for higher performance driving.

I avoid Sport Plus until engine oil is to at least 180*F. Also I have not seen an oil temp difference between Comfort and Sport. Didn’t pay attention to coolant but will on my next drive.

[ScullyD]

I learned a lot from this thread so far, thanks everyone for the contributions.

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by Got f1?

Also I have not seen an oil temp difference between Comfort and Sport. Didn't pay attention to coolant but will on my next drive.

I'll keep looking for my old pics. There's definitely quite a difference between efficient and sport as well. I recall it wasn't quite halfway between the temp target for efficient and sports plus but it was near enough. Anyone with a MPE digital display wheel could confirm very quickly. The numbers from a M2C (or any F8x for that matter) would be instructional.

One last thing, once the 60-90 second transition to target engine throttle oil and water temps concluded - the temps stayed on their mark regardless of sustained engine load. For me, this cooling performance was one of the distinguishing features between a M car built for track work and a M Performance variant.

[Got f1?]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

I'll keep looking for my old pics. There's definitely quite a difference between efficient and sport as well. I recall it wasn't quite halfway between the temp target for efficient and sports plus but it was near enough. Anyone with a MPE digital display wheel could confirm very quickly. The numbers from a M2C (or any F8x for that matter) would be instructional.

One last thing, once the 60-90 second transition to target engine throttle oil and water temps concluded - the temps stayed on their mark regardless of sustained engine load. For me, this cooling performance was one of the distinguishing features between a M car built for track work and a M Performance variant.

I just tested this with my MP wheel this weekend. In comfort and sport, coolant and oil temps were 221*F. In sport plus, coolant dropped really fast, like in less than a minute to 175*F. Oil dropped to 209/210*F on about 3-4 minutes.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by Got f1?

I avoid Sport Plus until engine oil is to at least 180*F.

I think the additional cooling is the same between Sport and Sport+, no?

[Got f1?]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

I think the additional cooling is the same between Sport and Sport+, no?

It is not. Additional cooling is in sport plus.