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      02-01-2022, 04:28 PM   #1
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nonesense...and we know Portamao is the faster color

But yeah this looks very very good in BGM!
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nonesense...and we know Portamao is the faster color

But yeah this looks very very good in BGM!
Nah. Portamao is girly. Everyone knows Tanzanite is more masculine!

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Looks stunning in Brooklyn Grey!

I just love this car
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Folks getting awfully excited about grey cars these days.
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Also, just not a fan of the two screens. Why no traditional dashboard plus an infotainment screen? All just looks very DYI.

Climate control on the screen would get annoying. Why no physical buttons? In general, this is my gripe with EVs. Can't we just keep everything we've enjoyed in our traditional vehicles and simply slap some batteries in there?
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Also, just not a fan of the two screens. Why no traditional dashboard plus an infotainment screen? All just looks very DYI.

Climate control on the screen would get annoying. Why not physical buttons?
The screen is haptic, just like the iDrive controller buttons so they all feel the same.
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I'm down with the design for electric vehicles and would get one in white if my bank account had more zeros. Congrats to all those who are getting one!
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The screen is haptic, just like the iDrive controller buttons so they all feel the same.
Am I the only one that would prefer something along these lines?



Fine, slap a cheap screen where my dashboard used to be but at least leave me the climate controls buttons so I can easily turn on/off seat heating, adjust A/C in a single touch without fiddling with the Samsung Galaxy etc.
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The screen is haptic, just like the iDrive controller buttons so they all feel the same.
Am I the only one that would prefer something along these lines?

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Fine, slap a cheap screen where my dashboard used to be but at least leave me the climate controls buttons so I can easily turn on/off seat heating, adjust A/C in a single touch without fiddling with the Samsung Galaxy etc.
There's still programmable shortcut buttons and the voice control is much improved these days too.
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Looks stunning in Brooklyn Grey!

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nonesense...and we know Portamao is the faster color

But yeah this looks very very good in BGM!
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Nah. Portamao is girly. Everyone knows Tanzanite is more masculine!

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Folks getting awfully excited about grey cars these days.
Yeah...all that grey (and black and white, etc.) is dull and boring. Why just stimulate rods when your retinas have hungry cones? It was going to be Sunset Orange or nothing!
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There's still programmable shortcut buttons and the voice control is much improved these days too.
Someone said they got rid of the typical shortcut buttons on the i4 dash?
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Nah. Portamao is girly. Everyone knows Tanzanite is more masculine!

The tanzanite looks great in certain viewing angles. But in real life it rarely looks like the website pictures. Sometimes it looks more like the Monaco E92 335i I used to own. Especially if it is just a little dirty. It looks like it will show a lot of surface scratches and swirl marks. It was a tough decision, but I just changed my order from Tanzanite to Portamao. Portamao just seems to look consistently good in the sunlight, shade, or night.
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Are we really going to argue car colors? C’mon man!
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nonesense...and we know Portamao is the faster color

But yeah this looks very very good in BGM!
Nah. Portamao is girly. Everyone knows Tanzanite is more masculine!

I don't feel girly when I drive it. But then a Back Street Boys song pops on the radio…
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Someone said they got rid of the typical shortcut buttons on the i4 dash?
They are still there, but I think they pop up when you press the iDrive controller forward, IIRC.
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nonesense...and we know Portamao is the faster color

But yeah this looks very very good in BGM!
Sorry off topic, but those were impressive numbers on your S5 with just bolt ons and a flash.
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Also, just not a fan of the two screens. Why no traditional dashboard plus an infotainment screen? All just looks very DYI.

Climate control on the screen would get annoying. Why no physical buttons? In general, this is my gripe with EVs. Can't we just keep everything we've enjoyed in our traditional vehicles and simply slap some batteries in there?
Why would you want to do that? Take advantage of the possibilities of a smaller powertrain. This is one of my biggest disappointments of the i4; because it's based on an ICE platform, you get all of the EV disadvantages (weight, reduced floor height) with none of the packaging benefits.

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Am I the only one that would prefer something along these lines?




Fine, slap a cheap screen where my dashboard used to be but at least leave me the climate controls buttons so I can easily turn on/off seat heating, adjust A/C in a single touch without fiddling with the Samsung Galaxy etc.
Again, why? How often are you monkeying with the HVAC controls?


I owned possibly the worst offender in history in terms of "button overload". An '07 Acura MDX:



Owned it for 6 years, in the prime of my tech capable life. Still thought it had too many buttons.

Now I own a 958 generation Cayenne. Have owned it for 8 and a half years. It's only the second most button-festooned car I have owned, which is saying something. I mean, it's enough to make a button manufacturer swoon!



Still drive the Cayenne weekly, but my daily is a Model 3. We all know how many buttons that has. You know how often I miss physical HVAC controls?

Pretty much never.

Half the time I go to hit the recric button in the Cayenne and I can't find it. Because it's surrounded by similarly colored, similarly sized buttons. Seriously it takes my eyes off the road just as much and for just as long as the Tesla.

As long as you can turn the temp up and down on the main screen, and have the heated / cooled seats only one layer deep. It's fine. Really.
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There is a middle ground between two opposing design languages: "buttons which control other buttons" vs "at least three fingers must be used to operate touch slider control".

The middle ground is the balance between safety and usability. Can controls be designed to better use muscle memory to help the driver maintain focus on the road ahead? Which controls should be implemented as buttons and touch sliders?

Absolutes in this department lead to little value.
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You guys are laughing now, but wait until Elon removes that Tesla screen and puts an eye tracking device instead.
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