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      03-30-2020, 01:03 PM   #1
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The perfect BMW in my humble opinion. Always loved the CSL as the best of breed except for the gearbox choice and I applaud them for doing it. This was a worthwhile modification and great to see.
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Would've definitely been easier to just convert a regular M3 to a CSL BUT... awesome nonetheless
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Would've definitely been easier to just convert a regular M3 to a CSL BUT... awesome nonetheless
My thoughts exactly! Still a legend though
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The perfect BMW in my humble opinion. Always loved the CSL as the best of breed except for the gearbox choice and I applaud them for doing it. This was a worthwhile modification and great to see.
Remind me, was the CSL having SMG or DCT?
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The e46 M3 CSL was often praised as the best BMW. And while I always liked the concept, the SMG-only config was a complete bust. So much so that I'd always pick a standard E46 M3 over it.

That was until manual swaps became more common. It finally makes sense to own a CSL.
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Love this! NOW it's the most perfect E46 M3. It should've been offered with three pedals to begin with.
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The perfect BMW in my humble opinion. Always loved the CSL as the best of breed except for the gearbox choice and I applaud them for doing it. This was a worthwhile modification and great to see.
Remind me, was the CSL having SMG or DCT?
SMG II.
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The perfect BMW in my humble opinion. Always loved the CSL as the best of breed except for the gearbox choice and I applaud them for doing it. This was a worthwhile modification and great to see.
Remind me, was the CSL having SMG or DCT?
SMG II.
Ahh, I can see the need for drivetrain swap then
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The perfect BMW in my humble opinion. Always loved the CSL as the best of breed except for the gearbox choice and I applaud them for doing it. This was a worthwhile modification and great to see.
Remind me, was the CSL having SMG or DCT?
SMG II.
Ahh, I can see the need for drivetrain swap then
Even if it were DCT, manual lovers would feel the need for a drivetrain swap. The CSL not being offered with a manual was the biggest turn off for me and many other enthusiasts.
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Remind me, was the CSL having SMG or DCT?
It was SMG... and did not age gracefully unlike the car that is still "the ONE" for me. Especially like this. This wasn't really a "mod" it was a "correction" in my humble opinion. Like when Ferraris for VWs got hideous US bumpers in the 70s and 80s. I don't consider that mod, but more of a correction.
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Would've definitely been easier to just convert a regular M3 to a CSL BUT... awesome nonetheless
Are you sure about that? I don't know if I agree. The SMG to MT swap has been done before on E46 M3s. It shouldn't be too hard since the SMG gearbox is basically the same.


Seems like it would be hard to source all the genuine CSL parts and quite expensive as well.
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Would've definitely been easier to just convert a regular M3 to a CSL BUT... awesome nonetheless
Are you sure about that? I don't know if I agree. The SMG to MT swap has been done before on E46 M3s. It shouldn't be too hard since the SMG gearbox is basically the same.


Seems like it would be hard to source all the genuine CSL parts and quite expensive as well.
I agree with you. SMG II to manual, is not expensive - as you can sell SMG pump and parts, it requires low mechanical skills, diy vids and pages are everywhere, tranny stays the same you just mill.

Now converting regular to CSL - interior is hard to find, swapping cfrp roof dosen't seem like an easy task, suspension, brakes, diff, steering, wheels... oh yes if you own competition model you may take brakes and steering from the list 😂
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Would've definitely been easier to just convert a regular M3 to a CSL BUT... awesome nonetheless
Are you sure about that? I don't know if I agree. The SMG to MT swap has been done before on E46 M3s. It shouldn't be too hard since the SMG gearbox is basically the same.


Seems like it would be hard to source all the genuine CSL parts and quite expensive as well.
I just meant weight reduction and a few exterior parts. Of course sourcing genuine parts would make it far more expensive and difficult
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Very cool.

Timing didn't work out but I planned to buy a CSL in Spain and keep it there as my summer car to eventually bring to the US. And it would have been manual-swapped for sure
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Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
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Spoken like someone who have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
Has* but yeah you're probably right I really wasn't too into the bmw scene around the spawn of the E46. In America we never got it so in my case, yeah it would be easier to just shave weight off of a standard e46 m3
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Has* but yeah you're probably right I really wasn't too into the bmw scene around the spawn of the E46. In America we never got it so in my case, yeah it would be easier to just shave weight off of a standard e46 m3
Ok, but you said *convert* which has now been changed to shave weight. Ginormous difference.
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Has* but yeah you're probably right I really wasn't too into the bmw scene around the spawn of the E46. In America we never got it so in my case, yeah it would be easier to just shave weight off of a standard e46 m3
SMG ---> conversion takes around 10 hours of work and ~$1000 in parts, most of which you can recoup by selling your SMG pump.

Making an M3 CSL weight, with CSL mindset (read: 50:50 weight distro and not ruining the car by gutting it or putting an obnoxious zero weight "muffler" on it) is tens of thousands of dollars worth of parts and dozens of hours of work. Beyond that, "convert" (which is what you actually said) would take that cost to more than a new M3, and some parts are NLA these days.

Said as someone with a ~CSL weight/mindset (a little lighter but not 50:50) e46 M3, that's converted a couple e46 M3s from SMG to 6mt.
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Has* but yeah you're probably right I really wasn't too into the bmw scene around the spawn of the E46. In America we never got it so in my case, yeah it would be easier to just shave weight off of a standard e46 m3
Ok, but you said *convert* which has now been changed to shave weight. Ginormous difference.
Alright are you bored? Like relax dude haha
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