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      12-02-2020, 08:18 AM   #111
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I'm not saying that they are gonna sell for E30 M3 prices, but V8's are a big deal in the AMG community. The last V8 AMG C-Class at least in the future may hold prices just a tad higher than normal depreciation. It will still depreciate of course, its not a god status car like the 993. Other than the E9X M3 which has been gone for years, there is no other newer compact sedan that offers a V8 under the hood. Definitely something that may be sought after in our bleak electric/downsizing future.
If it's one of last V8's in a small chassis, I think pricewise, they're going to do great. Not just because it's the last V8, but AMG is synonymous with a V8 engine. This would be like M breaking away from the 6 cylinders, would be a sad day indeed.

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Well, enough customers are fine with them that they haven't changed the entire line over. I don't expect to see that happen either.
Can't exactly just scrap a brand new engine with the snap of a finger. I think they very much realized they made a mistake, but what I like about them is that they rectify it as much as possible.

Dealerships couldn't give away the 718 GTS. Friend of mine with a good history with local dealership was offered brand new GTS at a ridiculous price and he turned it down.
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If it's one of last V8's in a small chassis, I think pricewise, they're going to do great. Not just because it's the last V8, but AMG is synonymous with a V8 engine. This would be like M breaking away from the 6 cylinders, would be a sad day indeed.

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Can't exactly just scrap a brand new engine with the snap of a finger. I think they very much realized they made a mistake, but what I like about them is that they rectify it as much as possible.

Dealerships couldn't give away the 718 GTS. Friend of mine with a good history with local dealership was offered brand new GTS at a ridiculous price and he turned it down.
It's been years at this point, if they were going to replace all of them with NA 6cyl engines, it would have happened by now for sure.
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The only issues I know of were early M178 (4.0TT) AMG engines in the E63S suffered from misfire issues, and MB bought a lot of those cars back from owners. Merc V8's tend to be very durable. Their outgoing (non-AMG) M278 (4.7TT) V8 is practically bulletproof.
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The M156, M273 and M157/M278 all have their issues. I wouldn't use the word "durable" with Mercedes V8s. Timing chains, soft cams, cylinder head bolts, swirl flaps, cylinder scuffing, oil wicking into wiring harnesses, and more.

The latest M17x had misfire problems, as noted. I would add that this engine hasn't achieved sufficient time or production volume history to make a strong statement on reliability.
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In my experience my uncle's 5 MB V8's have been good but as always YMMV, but he has had more non-AMG V8's (aside from one E55). Probably right that durable isn't the best word choice, although by German standards, I would still say they are better (reliability wise) than BMW's or Audi's V8's which are more problematic. BMW tends to do a lot better with their 6-cylinder engines.

The thought of MB/AMG axing the V8 and V6 makes me sad.


Is the 3.0 V6TT (C43, C400, C450) reliable?
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The thought of MB/AMG axing the V8 and V6 makes me sad.


Is the 3.0 V6TT (C43, C400, C450) reliable?
For Mercedes, yes. The M276 3.0 V6 TT in the C43, GLE400, GLS450 and others shares architecture with the 3.5 V6 NA and is generally reliable. Again, speaking in Mercedes terms, which means average Mercedes reliability is far below industry average. Unfortunately.
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Even if the current gen c63 is the last V8 c-class AMG model, I still wouldn't keep one past the warranty period. Too much risk even with proper maintenance.
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