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10-22-2024, 10:06 PM | #552 | |
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Max was defending and was clearly ahead. Rus was attacking and behind. That was the main difference. Nor due to lack of passing ability had no right tot he corner whereas Bot did. I think hard nosed racing is what should be allowed but I truly don’t think most guys in F1 besides Max, Alo, and Lec actually want to race hard - most just want to go out for Sunday drives. |
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In a way that's what happened if you read the stewards verdict, because normally it would be a 10sec penalty for Norris. They gave only 5sec. Remember it wasn't just the overtaking outside the track, Norris also had the black and white regarding tracklimits.
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10-23-2024, 04:11 AM | #554 | |
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We're they both in the wrong sure absolutely, did one deserve a punishment and not the other no. Did Max leave the required room either, no did he defend purposely off the circuit, yes. Did he do it twice during the race, again yes. |
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Over-regulating this stuff will destroy the racing and if you're being pragmatic about it, you know Lando just did not have the skill or enough of a car advantage to pass Max. I get it, it's not a good time for Brits. Let's not get out of hand though. |
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There should be no confusion here if you're unbiased. |
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The best example was the George penalty, if you can’t make that pass then how the hell are you ever supposed to pass legally on the majority of these tracks except down a straight with DRS? |
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Agreed except the other way. Yes he’s a master at exploiting the rules. I’m surprised it took this long for it to come up.
If this were done to Max instead of him doing it to Lando…….you know this conversation would be a whole lot different speaking of bias here. You can see from the angle going into the apex, George is actually trying to make the corner normally and Max obviously isn’t. |
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I also think DRS is lame. F1 is kind of doing what the NFL is doing (mostly done). They have no idea how to balance competition and safety. Instead of removing regulation, they keep adding which will eventually turn it into complete garbage. Doesn't change that Lando should have given the position back. The penalty was clear cut per the rules. |
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Sporting is better without excessive regs, imo. Max is just doing the same genius shit that Lewis, Schumacher, Senna, etc have done. |
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10-23-2024, 03:50 PM | #562 | |
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And of course some of this is banter and a touch of bias from both sides, the sport had always had it let’s face it but it’s gone a little worse today than it needs to be. |
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So if Lando or McLaren had been a bit more clever, couldn't they have calculated how much faster Lando was than Max on hard tires and then just decided to pass him right away knowing that they could definitely afford the 5 second penalty at the end of the race?
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But that's not their problem. If you start P1 you should aim to be P1 after 1st corner and not trying to fight for P3 Last edited by G30M; 10-23-2024 at 08:10 PM.. |
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They assured Nor he was in the right, but I think the true reason was they knew if they let Max by it would have been near impossible for Nor to actually pass him. He proved that already in the race.
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If you really like hard, wheel to wheel racing, try to find some BTCC clips from back in the day with Murray Walker commentary. That was fantastic |
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Photos are a mere snapshot and do not tell the whole story. Boiling it down to "Max was ahead at apex" is a simpleton look at it. He was attacking Lando and was just as guilty as Russel. |
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