[Red Bread]

Oh, cool. Comparing a 5k pound large sedan with an aftermarket tune to an actual sports car. Sure, makes sense.

[Bimmersandmopars]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

M8 is AWD, shouldn't be compared. It beat the C7 buy .35 which is a pretty big improvement

You mean comparing the M8GC which weighs 1300lbs more and is faster isn't a fair comparison all because AWD?

Power to weight is real and the #a don't lie.

According to GM the Z06 running a 10.6 with a 2.7 0-60 means it's likely struggling on the back half and based on the time and weight roughly at 3500lbs puts only about 580 at the wheel which is about 15% parasitic loss.

I'm just saying the math doesn't lie and if I were a Corvette lover the current C8 Z51 pack running a 10.9-11.1 is just fine and not making much less power compared to the Z06.

Add some FI and winner winner.

[Bimmersandmopars]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Oh, cool. Comparing a 5k pound large sedan with an aftermarket tune to an actual sports car. Sure, makes sense.

Dude.... the M8GC runs a 10.7 factory all day long..... at 1300lbs heavier. And a racechip only adds about 70-90whp.... which being fatter than the C8 based on the #s shouldn't be able to be quicker.

You just proved my point on how the Z06 IS NOT a "sports car". It's fantastic marketing.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Bimmersandmopars

Dude.... the M8GC runs a 10.7 factory all day long..... at 1300lbs heavier. And a racechip only adds about 70-90whp.... which being fatter than the C8 based on the #s shouldn't be able to be quicker.

You just proved my point on how the Z06 IS NOT a "sports car". It's fantastic marketing.

Haha. Compare lap times. Not everything is a straight road. And a stupid Tesla is faster than either, in a straight line. But people don't buy sports cars for that.

And again, why a big boat like the M8? Compare that to a similar yacht like a Conti GT, not sports cars.

A tuned G8x is likely still quicker than a Z06, and would have a much better chance of at least getting closer in lap times. But it still won't be nearly as quick on most tracks. The Z06 is built for those and just showing up at any track will have shown you what the C7Z was capable of, even if it wouldn't have won a drag race with many of the cars it lapped quicker than. I don't see anything that points to the C8Z not continuing that.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by Bimmersandmopars

Dude.... the M8GC runs a 10.7 factory all day long..... at 1300lbs heavier. And a racechip only adds about 70-90whp.... which being fatter than the C8 based on the #s shouldn't be able to be quicker.

You just proved my point on how the Z06 IS NOT a "sports car". It's fantastic marketing.

when z06 comes out, make sure you run one and post the video.


This forum has no appreciation for anything besides a BMW... You guys should explore a little.

[Bimmersandmopars]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

when z06 comes out, make sure you run one and post the video.


This forum has no appreciation for anything besides a BMW... You guys should explore a little.

Um please see my username lol.

In all seriousness..... glady!

[IllSic_Design]

Originally Posted by Bimmersandmopars

Dude.... the M8GC runs a 10.7 factory all day long..... at 1300lbs heavier. And a racechip only adds about 70-90whp.... which being fatter than the C8 based on the #s shouldn't be able to be quicker.

You just proved my point on how the Z06 IS NOT a "sports car". It's fantastic marketing.

I didn't know a sports car's only goal is drag racing/ quarter mile times.... actually I think it's the opposite, that's more muscle car territory.....

[Alfisti]

I'll never understand the us obsession with 0-60 and quarter mile times.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

I'll never understand the us obsession with 0-60 and quarter mile times.

BREAKING NEWS: Quick cars are more fun.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

BREAKING NEWS: Quick cars are more fun.

That's a very generic statement, i wouldn't define a quicker Rolls Phantom as more fun than say, the slow af MX-5, 'fun' is defined differently obviously for everyone
disclaimer: bad comparison i am fully aware, but so is the above generic statement with zero context

[RM7]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

BREAKING NEWS: Quick cars are more fun.

Tesla agrees with you.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by kyriian

That's a very generic statement, i wouldn't define a quicker Rolls Phantom as more fun than say, the slow af MX-5, 'fun' is defined differently obviously for everyone
disclaimer: bad comparison i am fully aware, but so is the above generic statement with zero context

Let me explain it to you. If you compare the otherwise identical car model in two trims, one slow and one fast, the faster trim will be more fun and engaging to drive. Does it make sense now?

[Alfisti]

But the Z06 is faster than said BMW AWD launch master, as soon as you add a corner anyways.

Your whole definition of fast depends on grip at launch.

[Humdizzle]

Any engineers or tuners in here ?

with the z06 running a very high compression ratio of 12.5:1 will people be able to make any more NA power out of the thing ? seems like forced induction would be the only way to go if you're a drag racer.

[swanson]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

when z06 comes out, make sure you run one and post the video.


This forum has no appreciation for anything besides a BMW... You guys should explore a little.

And dont forget their beloved porsche. Two, cant-do-wrong marques here at bimmerpost

[Bimmersandmopars]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

But the Z06 is faster than said BMW AWD launch master, as soon as you add a corner anyways.

Your whole definition of fast depends on grip at launch.

If gm got a published 10.6. .. it's more like 10.8-11. Advertised #s for American cars are always overzealous. Only American performance vehicle I've drove that exceeded FCA specs was my TRX when stock. Rated at a 12.7 1/4, we were getting 12.3-12.4s all day..... it's now corn fed running 9s.

Fastest curve I have tested the m8gc in was doing 137 and it was a non banked curve and felt incredibly controlled and planted. Hairpin turn is done weekly sending it into my neighborhood at 40-50mph... along as the gates already open. Lol....

[RM7]

Originally Posted by Bimmersandmopars

If gm got a published 10.6. .. it's more like 10.8-11. Advertised #s for American cars are always overzealous. Only American performance vehicle I've drove that exceeded FCA specs was my TRX when stock.

That's an incredibly ridiculous broad brush to be painting with.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

Any engineers or tuners in here ?

with the z06 running a very high compression ratio of 12.5:1 will people be able to make any more NA power out of the thing ? seems like forced induction would be the only way to go if you're a drag racer.

If the best part of 700hp isn't enough, you're chasing numbers not performance. Jesus 460hp heavy as hell Mustang GT got me to illegal speeds by brushing the throttle, let alone this thing.

[Bimmersandmopars]

Originally Posted by swanson

And dont forget their beloved porsche. Two, cant-do-wrong marques here at bimmerpost

Porsche are gross and all look the same.

[Bimmersandmopars]

Originally Posted by RM7

That's an incredibly ridiculous broad brush to be painting with.

I like to be proved wrong. Just most American companies are in the game of marketing their "horsepower" figures rather than actually backing them.

[Humdizzle]

Originally Posted by Bimmersandmopars

If gm got a published 10.6. .. it's more like 10.8-11. Advertised #s for American cars are always overzealous. Only American performance vehicle I've drove that exceeded FCA specs was my TRX when stock. Rated at a 12.7 1/4, we were getting 12.3-12.4s all day..... it's now corn fed running 9s.

yeah i'm hoping its not like the dodge demon where they claimed it ran a 9.5 and was the fastest thing ever to sell more cars... then mags were getting like 10.5-11 on drag strips and 12.0 on regular pavement.

[Bimmersandmopars]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

If the best part of 700hp isn't enough, you're chasing numbers not performance. Jesus 460hp heavy as hell Mustang GT got me to illegal speeds by brushing the throttle, let alone this thing.

Really?! Wow.

To his point though the 6.4l motor from FCA in their HD trucks and SRT/Scat Packs can't handle being boosted.