[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

But no evidence toe angle changed...

Who knows maybe it controls other aspects of the car (maybe brake bias for instance), but so long as it doesn't alter toe angle then its not das...

Yeah ..HAM got already in 2018 steering wheel wear !
Actually big steering wheel wear , like at least 2 centimeters at 320 + km/h !
Imagine how good HAM actually is .I'm impressed .. WOW !!!

Let's be serious mate ! Before I'm dying ..

Advice : If you don't want to see it . Just close your eyes and everything is just fine !

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah ..HAM got already in 2018 steering wheel wear !
Actually big steering wheel wear , like at least 2 centimeters at 320 + km/h !
Imagine how good HAM actally is . WOW !!!

Let's be serious mate ! Before I'm dying ..

Advice : If you don't want to see it . Just close your eyes and everything is just fine !

Wear was a possibility.

It could also control other aspects like brake bias without toggling a switch.

I'm fully able to see the play in the wheel, but I don't default an answer as to why immediately to some comspiratorial garbage that suits my narrative. Innocent until proven guilty.


If it was DAS then why aren't other team protesting? Right because it isn't DAS as there is no toe angle adjustments occuring, you only like saying that because it supports your anti mercedes narrative.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

Wear was a possibility.

It could also control other aspects like brake bias without toggling a switch.

I'm fully able to see the play in the wheel, but I don't default an answer as to why immediately to some comspiratorial garbage that suits my narrative. Innocent until proven guilty.


If it was DAS then why aren't other team protesting? Right because it isn't DAS as there is no toe angle adjustments occuring, you only like saying that because it supports your anti mercedes narrative.

M-Powers point is that DAS was operative in 2018 without other teams knowing at first.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yeah ..HAM got already in 2018 steering wheel wear !
Actually big steering wheel wear , like at least 2 centimeters at 320 + km/h !
Imagine how good HAM actually is .I'm impressed .. WOW !!!

Let's be serious mate ! Before I'm dying ..

Advice : If you don't want to see it . Just close your eyes and everything is just fine !

Also a few things to note, at the start of the video it was the w11 in the silver livery, you can tell it is the w11 because the helmet hamilton was wearing is purple and he has only worn a purple helmet starting in 2020.

When it pans to the w09 in the 2018 hungarian gp lap where the das was supposedly used, the steering wheel deflection wasn't even a fraction as much as the w11's das usage.... It was more distortion due to the rain on the camera lens, and there was toe angle change. You guys are insane.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

M-Powers point is that DAS was operative in 2018 without other teams knowing at first.

1) the steering movement was near nonexistent and more likely due to the water moving over the camera. Find me footage without camera obstruction or distortion due to the water.

2) No toe angle movement.

3) Teams scruitinze onboard video from mercedes like no other teams because they're so sucessful, any minor movement would have been caught instantly. Just like how DAS was caught on day 1 of 2020 testing.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by minn19

That’s what I’m thinking, if FIA actively ignored the fact that MB put DAS back on the car it would be an easy lawsuit for RB to win. I imagine it’s quite a few parts no?


IIRC when they had DAS the movement on the steering wheel from BOT and HAM was much more pronounced. Show the video of the tires changing alignment in conjunction with this video. Or show from when they had it last year to now in the same corner etc. Do some real work here and try to prove your accusation.

I'm able to watch this on a larger screen now, and it literally looks like it is a mm or less of movement, and possibly the movement is more exaggerated by shadows and different lighting conditions.

Literally these anti mercedes guys are trying to make something out of nothing. DAS required alot more steering deflection than this, and redbull's flexi wing moved far more than this...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Also a few things to note, at the start of the video it was the w11 in the silver livery, you can tell it is the w11 because the helmet hamilton was wearing is purple and he has only worn a purple helmet starting in 2020.

When it pans to the w09 in the 2018 hungarian gp lap where the das was supposedly used, the steering wheel deflection wasn't even a fraction as much as the w11's das usage.... It was more distortion due to the rain on the camera lens, and there was toe angle change. You guys are insane.

Of course mate .MAX is pulling his steering backwards like crazy in every single race ...
Don't be worried mate ! It's just steering wheel wear at 320 + km/h !

"HAM vs MAX" in the 2021 Brazilian-GP

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Of course mate .MAX is pulling his steering backwards like crazy in every single race ...
Don't be worried mate ! It's just steering wheel wear at 320 + km/h !

"HAM vs MAX" in the 2021 Brazilian-GP

The deflection is around 1mm, literally nothing. And is more likely exacerbated due to the lighting.


You guys love making something out of nothing, I guess you have to do that to gas light mercedes and try to make max look better than he is, since your whole world view revolves around him. It'll also ensure if he does lose your whole conception about him being the best isn't degraded, and that surely no driver could beat him in a fair car... You guys are quite soft.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

1) the steering movement was near nonexistent and more likely due to the water moving over the camera. Find me footage without camera obstruction or distortion due to the water.

2) No toe angle movement.

3) Teams scruitinze onboard video from mercedes like no other teams because they're so sucessful, any minor movement would have been caught instantly. Just like how DAS was caught on day 1 of 2020 testing.

It can't be a loose steering component then for no reason ,does the Fia have a safety test taking this into account. You must remember vid of Senna's loose steering before his fateful off at Imola.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

M-Powers point is that DAS was operative in 2018 without other teams knowing at first.

The latest .Just in . Wolff confident => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99566...e-grenade.html

The Wolf confident: "In Saudi Arabia we pull the pin out of the grenade"

Actually I agree completely with HAM's Rocket Grenade !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The latest .Just in . Wolff confident => https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/99566...e-grenade.html

The Wolf confident: "In Saudi Arabia we pull the pin out of the grenade"

Actually I agree completely with HAM's Rocket Grenade !

Wolf is so confident he's even sticking two fingers at us all to say F* you all heheh

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

The deflection is around 1mm, literally nothing. And is more likely exacerbated due to the lighting.


You guys love making something out of nothing, I guess you have to do that to gas light mercedes and try to make max look better than he is, since your whole world view revolves around him. It'll also ensure if he does lose your whole conception about him being the best isn't degraded, and that surely no driver could beat him in a fair car... You guys are quite soft.

1 MM ?
You must be joking ?
That's at least 7/10 MM !

If that was wear ...HAM was 'RIP already man !!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Wolf is so confident he's even sticking two fingers at us all to say F* you all heheh

Don't be worried . Same F@ck will come from HONDA Japan !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

1 MM ?
You must be joking ?
That's at least 7/10 MM !

If that was wear ...HAM was 'RIP already man !!!

1mm is hilarious to say the least, on a road car safety examination any play in steering would be an MOT fail.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It can't be a loose steering component then for no reason ,does the Fia have a safety test taking this into account. You must remember vid of Senna's loose steering before his fateful off at Imola.

No likely it wasn't but, it could be a rare possibility of it occuring due to wear and only being caught during the high vibration conditions of a race. For example vibration loosens bolts which is why loctite exists.

For example RB's rear wing flapping around, in their testing their DRS actuator was strong enough to stabilize the wing, yet in a race condition it exposed the design as a short fall. Which is why engineering always has beta testing in field conditions to make sure parts are strong enough and can handle real life use cases.

Either way we will never know the reality of the answer until mercedes confirms it, but wear looks more probably than DAS because it only occured once before mercedes fixed it, and there was not enough play or toe angle change for it to be DAS.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

1 MM ?
You must be joking ?
That's at least 7/10 MM !

If that was wear ...HAM was 'RIP already man !!!

look at the fixed line on the video vs. the blue centering sticker.

The ring where the base of the wheel attaches is not a good reference point due to lighting flucctutations.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by F87source

Wear was a possibility.

It could also control other aspects like brake bias without toggling a switch.

I'm fully able to see the play in the wheel, but I don't default an answer as to why immediately to some comspiratorial garbage that suits my narrative. Innocent until proven guilty.


If it was DAS then why aren't other team protesting? Right because it isn't DAS as there is no toe angle adjustments occuring, you only like saying that because it supports your anti mercedes narrative.

Is RB even saying/protesting that it’s DAS. I haven’t seen that. If it is so obvious then I’d think they’d be the first ones to be all over it. Both championships are on the line.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

1mm is hilarious to say the least, on a road car safety examination any play in steering would be an MOT fail.

Well so would no turn signals etc etc. What’s the point? An F1 car isn’t road legal you say.

[minn19]

I like how Alonso is bragging/cocky about his podium. It only took a bunch of penalties and other things to go right to get him there.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

look at the fixed line on the video vs. the blue centering sticker.

The ring where the base of the wheel attaches is not a good reference point due to lighting flucctutations.

Are you paid by MKSixer ?

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Are you paid by MKSixer ?

Wish I was, then I wouldn't only be on here for fun but I'd have more money for mods.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by minn19

I like how Alonso is bragging/cocky about his podium. It only took a bunch of penalties and other things to go right to get him there.

He salty he got spanked by a rookie Hamilton.