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I picked up a K5 as a daily driver. It's a fantastic car for the money and looks great. I got the GT line in wolf grey with red interior like the pics below.
It's very comfortable, gets great mileage (on regular), has all the latest tech (safety features, wireless CarPlay, etc), and has a great design inside and out. |
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11-21-2020, 07:44 AM | #24 |
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How about performance? Acceleration? Passing on highways? curvy roads?
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11-21-2020, 10:43 AM | #25 |
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We've been talking about where BMW has been headed in the 'banned in G8x forums... " thread.
Here's an idea why Kia is now challenging BMW... https://www.kbb.com/car-news/albert-...formance-push/ |
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11-21-2020, 10:52 AM | #27 | |
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Current BMWs suck compared to what they used to make. Let's just be honest. Down fall was SUVs and offering a FWD sedan.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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The correct business plan IMO.
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11-21-2020, 11:20 AM | #29 |
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11-21-2020, 02:50 PM | #32 |
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I was surprised when I first found out, too. xDrive adds another 182 pounds, by the way. 3,764 lbs curb weight is definitely a lot, but that's just how (luxury) cars are these days. A 2020 C300 4Matic is just over 4,000 pounds! Tech, features, safety, sound deadening, etc. all add weight. The constantly increasing size of cars contributes, too.
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11-21-2020, 03:47 PM | #34 | |
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4,000 does seem a bit high. Do you have a different source?
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11-21-2020, 04:11 PM | #35 | |
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C300 By The Numbers The car is definitely heavy but 4000 is weird considering even a Model 3 barely tips over 4000lbs.
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11-21-2020, 07:07 PM | #38 |
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Seems like an experiment in massaging data to fuel a narrative.
Definitely a testament to how good "regular" cars have gotten over the years though. At the time the E90 was being produced even the thought of such a comparison would have been laughable. No Toyota, Kia, Honda etc was even remotely in the same league.
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At least they're still making M cars.
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BMW can still do a better job and purposely chooses not to. For example there are a lot of cars, even from non-performance brands, that have better steering than BMW. I don't see how making their steering a little tighter and less vague would lose them sales. If you market yourself as the "ultimate driving machine", then at least try to give a sense it isn't complete bull.
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Porsche's steering on the other hand provides that natural-feeling resistance against the front wheels that we covet. Macans and Cayennes are very popular so they've seem to have struck a proper balance between sportiness and daily usability. Why BMW refuses to do this is beyond my understanding.
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There was no precision in the "dead spot" in the middle of the steering.
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