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      07-21-2020, 11:02 AM   #1
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Having the itch to buy a new fun car.
My budget is up to $75k.

Currently I have 2018 M3 CP and 2015 BRZ.
I plan to trade in the BRZ for whatever car i do get and M3 will stay.

My preference is to get NA V8 car with a manual.
Besides the American muscle cars - really not many options new.

Here are my top choices:
1) 2013 E92 M3 CP Manual
2) 2020 Shelby GT350
3) 981 Cayman GTS / GT4
4) 991.1 911S /4S / GTS
5) 1st gen Audi R8 - prefer V10 but very few out there
6) Ferrari 360 - Always a dream car of mine when I was younger but in my price range it would be F1 trans and scared of maintenance/reliability...
7) BMW E46 M3 - another car I always wanted when i was younger
8) Lexus LC500 - used around $70k is amazing value for one of the best NA V8s

If anyone owned GT350 and E92 M3 or any cars above - feedback would be great.
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      07-21-2020, 11:17 AM   #2
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Sensible choice is lightly used 2019+ GT350.

Can make a case for 911 based on resale value holding but I assume you want NA as I do so 2015/16 latest.

I am in same boat but want a cab, if not for that i'd do GT350. Looks great, sounds brilliant and goes like stink.

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Having the itch to buy a new fun car.
My budget is up to $75k.

Currently I have 2018 M3 CP and 2015 BRZ.
I plan to trade in the BRZ for whatever car i do get and M3 will stay.

My preference is to get NA V8 car with a manual.
Besides the American muscle cars - really not many options new.

Here are my top choices:
1) 2013 E92 M3 CP Manual
2) 2020 Shelby GT350
3) 981 Cayman GTS / GT4
4) 991.1 911S /4S / GTS
5) 1st gen Audi R8 - prefer V10 but very few out there
6) Ferrari 360 - Always a dream car of mine when I was younger but in my price range it would be F1 trans and scared of maintenance/reliability...
7) BMW E46 M3 - another car I always wanted when i was younger
8) Lexus LC500 - used around $70k is amazing value for one of the best NA V8s

If anyone owned GT350 and E92 M3 or any cars above - feedback would be great.
That's a pretty decent budget you got there, so I think that rules out a few cars out of the list.

I own an E92 M3 (6MT) and it's definitely a forever car for me. As I told someone in another thread, I think if you're looking at purely a weekend car, there are much better choices. Personally, I'd want to get something with 2 seats since you already have an F80. So this would apply to an E46 M3 as well.

Unlike a lot of people here, I like the low maintenance of a Toyota product (got a Tundra as a daily), so the LC500 is cool is many ways. I think the interior looks super special, but overall, I think the car is too compromised to be a weekend car. As a daily, sure.

GT4 would be really nice, but the tall 2nd gear is a real drag. It wouldn't be my choice, but I were in your shoes, chase your dreams and get the Ferrari, at least once
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Sensible choice is lightly used 2019+ GT350.

Can make a case for 911 based on resale value holding but I assume you want NA as I do so 2015/16 latest.

I am in same boat but want a cab, if not for that i'd do GT350. Looks great, sounds brilliant and goes like stink.
It is really hard to find 991.1 S or 4S which had NA engine with manual.
Most of these are also in boring white, black, grey colors.

I prefer coupe lol
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Similar boat, but no manual requirement for me and probably spending a little less.

Any reason you aren't looking at a C7? With that budget you could pretty much look at any Trim. I have the Ftype R on my list, but the manual was only on the 6cyl version as far as I am aware. Probably impossible to find too.

I would love a Ferrari, but as you said the maintenance and reliability scare me. I think a strong case can be made for any of the Porsches or Audi R8 in terms of depreciation.

I am partial of the Cayman over the 911, but that is personal bias and limited time in a 911 probably.
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I’m thinking Maybe get new Cayman GTS but its a lot of $$$, might as well get GT4. The available colors don’t have any decent blue which sucks.
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1999-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo is my recommendation.

No IMS issue w/415hp for less than 1/2 the price of a GT3. Seen them going for around $40-50k which is a bargain compared to other models.

See, the following for a comparison between the various choices in this vintage:

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1...-market-watch/

Personally, I've been on the look out for a "reasonably" priced 996TT but I'm actually quite happy w/my "ordinary" 2000 C4 Cab that I bought late last year for just $15k and if I find a TT, I'll probably keep both of them.

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Similar boat, but no manual requirement for me and probably spending a little less.

Any reason you aren't looking at a C7? With that budget you could pretty much look at any Trim. I have the Ftype R on my list, but the manual was only on the 6cyl version as far as I am aware. Probably impossible to find too.

I would love a Ferrari, but as you said the maintenance and reliability scare me. I think a strong case can be made for any of the Porsches or Audi R8 in terms of depreciation.

I am partial of the Cayman over the 911, but that is personal bias and limited time in a 911 probably.
I drove a Corvette GrandSport and Z06 but its just not for me. Steering is a bit light and not as quick as i want, gauges look like they are from Malibu.

I drove Ftype R many years ago and it sounds epic. I originally had one on my list but they are very rare and finding one to my spec would be impossible. Not interested in getting new one.
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1999-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo is my recommendation.

No IMS issue w/415hp for less than 1/2 the price of a GT3. Seen them going for around $40-50k which is a bargain compared to other models.

See, the following for a comparison between the various choices in this vintage:

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1...-market-watch/

Personally, I've been on the look out for a "reasonably" priced 996TT but I'm actually quite happy w/my "ordinary" 2000 C4 Cab that I bought late last year for just $15k and if I find a TT, I'll probably keep both of them.

Life is good!
Ye i looked at 996 Turbo and I think its great “investment” car as you probably wouldn’t lose much on it. Not really wanting a turbo and that interior is pitiful.
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That's a pretty decent budget you got there, so I think that rules out a few cars out of the list.

I own an E92 M3 (6MT) and it's definitely a forever car for me. As I told someone in another thread, I think if you're looking at purely a weekend car, there are much better choices. Personally, I'd want to get something with 2 seats since you already have an F80. So this would apply to an E46 M3 as well.

Unlike a lot of people here, I like the low maintenance of a Toyota product (got a Tundra as a daily), so the LC500 is cool is many ways. I think the interior looks super special, but overall, I think the car is too compromised to be a weekend car. As a daily, sure.

GT4 would be really nice, but the tall 2nd gear is a real drag. It wouldn't be my choice, but I were in your shoes, chase your dreams and get the Ferrari, at least once
I agree on your point and would like a more dedicated/raw performance car - 2 seater etc but not many great options for under $100k unfortunately. 991.2 GT3 would be perfect i think 😃

I recently drove a CPO 2017 MB AMG GT and it looks And sounds amazing. It feels like a GT car with lazy steering and it feels huge. Opposite of how a Porsche feels...
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I hear you on grey/black/silver (don't mind white myself) for 911's.

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If we stick strictly to the requirements of NA, V8, manual, under $75k, your list really only should have E9x M3, GT350, and R8. Ferrari gated manuals are much higher than $75k these days.

Of the three, it’s not my style but i think the GT350 is your best bet. It’s new and current tech, most competitive performance-wise, and fits the budget.
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If we stick strictly to the requirements of NA, V8, manual, under $75k, your list really only should have E9x M3, GT350, and R8. Ferrari gated manuals are much higher than $75k these days.

Of the three, it’s not my style but i think the GT350 is your best bet. It’s new and current tech, most competitive performance-wise, and fits the budget.
I'd do the R8 over a GT350 but are they really 75K?
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Lacking a manual but it does have a V10 - how 'bout a E60 M5?

Not a V8 but can get it manual and is tons of fun plus you can use the extra $$$ for goodies - M2 Comp

Here's one from left field if you're handy with some tools - Quadrifoglio?

Lastly, like other's have chimed - R8 or GT350. The GT350 gives you an experience not many other vehicles can provide.

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might want to check out an AMV8

They are absolutely beautiful, sound amazing and rare enough to be eye catching. If you're into 'verts even more attractive.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing

I just went through the excercise, but was locked into a manual & convertible. I ultimately went the sensible approach and got a 2017 991.2 base cab, but the Aston tugged at my hearstrings more. I've heard horror stories about R8 maintenance costs from a friend who had one. The 911 is like the miata, its always the right choice.
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Having the itch to buy a new fun car.
My budget is up to $75k.

Currently I have 2018 M3 CP and 2015 BRZ.
I plan to trade in the BRZ for whatever car i do get and M3 will stay.

My preference is to get NA V8 car with a manual.
Besides the American muscle cars - really not many options new.

Here are my top choices:
1) 2013 E92 M3 CP Manual
2) 2020 Shelby GT350
3) 981 Cayman GTS / GT4
4) 991.1 911S /4S / GTS
5) 1st gen Audi R8 - prefer V10 but very few out there
6) Ferrari 360 - Always a dream car of mine when I was younger but in my price range it would be F1 trans and scared of maintenance/reliability...
7) BMW E46 M3 - another car I always wanted when i was younger
8) Lexus LC500 - used around $70k is amazing value for one of the best NA V8s

If anyone owned GT350 and E92 M3 or any cars above - feedback would be great.
I just sold my Ferrari 360 and replaced it with an Alfa Romeo 4C.

PM me with any questions you might have - ther 360 was awesome and cannot say enough good things about that engine sound. Mine was an F1 - R&M was actually very reasonable.

It cost me about 4K per year
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I'd go GT350, then R8.

I've seriously been eyeing Vantages. 10 year old Vantages, but still Vantages. Also been looking at C63's. Gut feeling is my next ride will be a C63.
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You know what, the Aston is a legit option. Lovely to look at etc and the prices are reasonable.

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If we stick strictly to the requirements of NA, V8, manual, under $75k, your list really only should have E9x M3, GT350, and R8. Ferrari gated manuals are much higher than $75k these days.

Of the three, it’s not my style but i think the GT350 is your best bet. It’s new and current tech, most competitive performance-wise, and fits the budget.
I'd do the R8 over a GT350 but are they really 75K?
I believe it's doable. You maybe won't get the most mint, late year example, though.
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I agree on your point and would like a more dedicated/raw performance car - 2 seater etc but not many great options for under $100k unfortunately. 991.2 GT3 would be perfect i think 😃

I recently drove a CPO 2017 MB AMG GT and it looks And sounds amazing. It feels like a GT car with lazy steering and it feels huge. Opposite of how a Porsche feels...
I don't necessarily mind big GT cruisers as weekend cars as they can still be special. I just think for that kind of money, the LC doesn't have the performance to match its price tag. It will be slower than your F80 if you're ok with that.

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You know what, the Aston is a legit option. Lovely to look at etc and the prices are reasonable.
I was browsing through the forums while watching Hoovie's AM video. While the initial prices to buy are very reasonable, a clutch replacement on the AMV8 is $4k+ for just parts. Also saw a couple of threads about V12 rod bearing issues. As an owner of S54 and S65 powered vehicles, I don't have the patience to add another one of those

I think it's the case of when things are good, it's good. But when it's bad, it's safe to assume it'll be very expensive if it's not a common Ford part. Matt Farah said he dropped $2700 on handbrake cables for his Vanquish.
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I'd do the R8 over a GT350 but are they really 75K?
The V8 version is definitely possible, V10s would be much harder to find and forget manual but i would increase budget for right car.

The R8 looks great still and interior has aged well imo.
I drove a V10 Spyder a few years back and loved the car.
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