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02-17-2021, 10:54 PM | #1961 | |
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We can see this with the 300zx. It had a MSRP of $29,100-$33,800 in 1990 and ballooned to $41,089-$44,879 for its last year in 96. 1996- 2.929 1995- 4.176 1994- 4.836 1993- 9.801 1992- 9.628 1991- 14.903 1990- 22.095 Base MSRP 1994- $36,489 (+$10,473 for inflation) 1993- $30,555 |
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Sports cars are not a daily driver for most people, and the middle class can't afford a brand new sports car as a 3rd car. Thus, the majority of people buying these hot new cars are well-off and end up buying the Porsche because it's pretty much always better.
I think there is room in the market for cheap sports cars (MX5) and expensive sports cars, and not a lot in the middle. |
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On a different note I'm really curious to see how Nissan's next Z will do. Last edited by supra93; 02-18-2021 at 12:10 AM.. |
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LOL...you act like they have never put the same engine in more than one car. It could have easily been a detuned version to still offer great performance but leave the LCF & RCF as the expensive top of the line picks
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02-18-2021, 02:45 AM | #1965 | |
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I have little hope for the Z, sadly. Nissan probably won't get it right. Even if they do, starting at $40k might mean it ends up too expensive for the kids that want it, and not good enough for the demographic that can afford it. I am sad that the Z4 and Supra aren't more popular. I really hope the segment survives. |
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I drive two RWD cars and have no interest in AWD. If I bought a 911 it would be RWD, if I was interested in an R8, I would also prefer a RWD. Corvette would only be worse with AWD. In a medium hp car like the Supra there is no use in AWD and the negatives would out weigh the positives.
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I do agree few want to buy a $133k Nissan, partly for the manufacturer but then partly for how they will actually use them.
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I am hopeful for the Z. The last time it did well, it was offering close to Mustang GT power at a Mustang GT price point, but with only 2 seats and a lighter chassis. That’s a thing they’re looking to repeat with the upcoming Z car. |
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You said they should make their own body and stuff the ISF V8 in there. I was stating they already have done that with the Lexus. Apparently, they didn't see the business case for a baby RCF. |
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I'm eyeing the new BRZ since it's fairly cheap, but I'm still going to wait on the specs/looks for the new STi and 400Z before I make any final decisions. I had also thought about the new Mach 1 Mustang.......but at that price, I'll save $10k and buy an SS 1LE that is likely still faster. |
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Personally, I like the looks of the Z proto, and the manual is icing on the cake. Rumors about pricing has been all over the board. Some with "connections" have said just a few grand over the 370z; while others are saying $40k-$50k. So who knows who is telling the truth. I hope it stays affordable as hinted by a Nissan official. Idk about the Z4, but the Supra would probably be a little more popular if they could throw in a manual. Even still, it's not all that bad. Last year the Supra alone handy outsold both the Cayman and Boxster. |
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No denying that the car had a second life thanks to the tuning potential, but it wasn't as unloved as the sales numbers would have you believe when it came out, it was more a victim of circumstance. |
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