[MAMOHT]

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/04/30...r-team-really/

There goes the canoe …
Hope the BMW charging alliance starts doing something.

[thebishman]

Musk is losing his mind!

[Windshieldfarmer]

Originally Posted by MAMOHT

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/04/30...r-team-really/

There goes the canoe …
Hope the BMW charging alliance starts doing something.

Not credible.

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by thebishman

Musk is losing his mind!

It’s been gone for awhile.

[MAMOHT]

Yeah, it’s not exactly confirmed but where there is smoke there is usually fire. Hope it’s total fake though.
Or maybe Musk went the usual corporate way. Fire all old and highly paid people and hire new for 60% of their salaries.

[A418t81]

This is a disaster for the entire EV movement. Wow.

[Pictor]

Why would anyone expect any less. Dude is a chaos monkey. It's too early but this drama is self inflicted and the solution has been there if they wanted to take it.

[Windshieldfarmer]

Musk knows how to make money…he is not going to jeopardize a developing cash cow. The entire article is nothing but assumptions and click bait around the termination of a VP and unconfirmed assumptions about layoffs. The sky is not falling….

[Paladin1]

Maybe the current daimyos didn’t share the Shōgun's vision (re - non-Tesla manufacturers using the network). That never worked out well for them historically. At least they get to keep their heads. Presumably.

[shoot_the_goalie]

I think the layoffs have been confirmed as legit...

"Just two weeks after Tesla laid off at least 14,000 workers across the world, CEO Elon Musk is planning layoffs for hundreds of additional staffers — including the bulk of the company’s Supercharger team and several executives.

Musk wrote in an email sent to senior Tesla executives late Monday night, first reported by The Information, that he wanted to be “absolutely hardcore” about reducing Tesla’s workforce. He added that, beginning at 10 a.m. on Tuesday, he will ask any executive “who retains more than three people who don’t obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test” to resign.

He also announced that two executives would depart Tesla on Tuesday morning: Rebecca Tinucci, a six-year veteran of the company who overseas its Supercharger division, and Daniel Ho, who has been at Tesla for more than 10 years and leads its new products division. Ho has previously been the program manager for the Model S, Model 3, and Model Y.

Most of Tinucci’s 500-person team will also be leaving the company Tuesday, although a few will reportedly be reassigned to other teams, The Information reports. Tinucci has been instrumental in leading Tesla’s electric vehicle charging business and convincing Western automakers to adopt the North American Charging Standard — a feat that landed her on Time magazine’s 100 Climate list.

Tesla stock sank more than 2% in pre-market trading Tuesday."

[MAMOHT]

There is a chance that they got enough development in that area to just stop it for a while and to just keep building up the network. After all, there is not a whole lot of revolutionary stuff in the charging world. Just send the right current to the battery.

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by Windshieldfarmer

Musk knows how to make money…he is not going to jeopardize a developing cash cow. The entire article is nothing but assumptions and click bait around the termination of a VP and unconfirmed assumptions about layoffs. The sky is not falling….

If only one could reach out to their PR team in order to help sort out the BS from what's really going on.... Oh what's that? They sacked the entire PR team years ago..... Gotcha!

The article was actually very clear about not staying that this is a vetted fact and that it is speculative.

Odds are it is half true; they probably made deep cuts in that department (as with others) in an attempt to make their next quarterly results look better. Juicing that stock price is their #1 priority. Then in August they will be announcing their to be released "perpetually next year"© robotaxi where they'll pretend again that their FSD system is ready for this (spoiler alert, it isn't) and then maybe a bit later they'll try to juice it up a bit by showing us the progress on their Tesla robot which maybe they'll have made more useful than the Nintendo Entertainment System's R.O.B. .....maybe....

[Barry123]

The puppet board should have fired Musk long ago. He's great at startups, but sucks at maturing companies.

[Pictor]

Originally Posted by MAMOHT

There is a chance that they got enough development in that area to just stop it for a while and to just keep building up the network. After all, there is not a whole lot of revolutionary stuff in the charging world. Just send the right current to the battery.

I don't think any sane leader in technology at scale would agree with that statement. A 1% reduction in loss of energy delivery will can have a significant improvement in revenue. Thinking about things like SiC, high voltage vehicles, energy delivery to a new fleet of vehicles which will require longer cables and it's own challenges wrt energy loss and MCS or Megawatt energy delivery for medium and heavy duty vehicles. But then we're not talking about a sane leader. Then there is the on again/off again cheaper T*. I guess the low cost future model will be a stripped down 3 or Y which only makes me think of the 2CV. Maybe we'll see lawn chair webbing for seats and optional rear seats at a reduced cost? How else could these cars be stripped down from where they are today?

[MAMOHT]

“Good enough” might be ok for now and better than goong for the elusive “the best”. All those wires and pins do have their physicsl limits after all.

[Pictor]

Originally Posted by MAMOHT

“Good enough” might be ok for now and better than goong for the elusive “the best”. All those wires and pins do have their physicsl limits after all.

There is a misplaced quote that has been floating around for 30-40 years about 640k of memory being enough.

And the limit of all those existing wires is exactly what I'm referring to.

[MAMOHT]

I am looking forward to see those 5k volt systems or 1” thick wires. Cryo cooling would be cool to use as well.

[thebishman]

This has been confirmed by multiple sources including the NYT:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesl...ost-reduction/


This is what happens when the government and automakers hand the keys to the National DCFC charging network to a Sociopath. It’s a fcuking travesty!

[JSTARR]

Tantrum Based Management.

[Windshieldfarmer]

Lots of Tesla hate on this board…and some of it’s deserved, some not. That said, any of us who purchased or leased an IX prior to six months ago made their decision with no preconceived notion that Tesla superchargers would become widely available to BMWs. Seeing the potential of slowing supercharger rollouts is a bit like having an unexpected gift partially taken away. That said I’m still potentially better off than when I made my lease decision.

The adoption of the NACS standard is good for EV adoption in general because it makes individual chargers available to more potential customers. What perhaps is more concerning is that Elon might be recognizing the harsh reality that the rate of increase in EV adoption has slowed greatly and network development will slow accordingly. Elon’s antics get tiring, but he is nonetheless pretty good at reading the tea leaves.🍂

[ggalanis]

Originally Posted by thebishman

This has been confirmed by multiple sources including the NYT:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesl...ost-reduction/


This is what happens when the government and automakers hand the keys to the National DCFC charging network to a Sociopath. It’s a fcuking travesty!

Not sure why anyone is surprised that Elon would do this. He is just showing everyone once again how amazing he isn't. The cherry on top of this is that while he is gutting teams in order to lower operating costs and improve the look of the next quarterly results, Tesla wants shareholders to reinstate a $56 billion compensation package for CEO Elon Musk that was blocked previously.... Just note that 56B is more than all the profit the company has EVER made combined even of you ignore the years where they weren't profitable.

[sor]

Originally Posted by MAMOHT

There is a chance that they got enough development in that area to just stop it for a while and to just keep building up the network. After all, there is not a whole lot of revolutionary stuff in the charging world. Just send the right current to the battery.

They can coast on existing SC network for awhile. I would be surprised if they got rid of even the maintenance staff, that’s really the critical portion in the short-medium term.

Musk opening NACS means he could step out of charging network business entirely if he wants. Maybe not entirely today but getting others to invest in Tesla-compatible charging may have been part of the plan. If SC is not a huge profit center on its own, then that’s quite a heavy lift to scale and maintain as purely a selling point for your own EVs.