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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh
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Originally Posted by Red Bread
Good grief. The farcical lies just happen to be true, full life cycle. Most EVs break even around 30k miles and unless you live in West Virginia, charging is cleaner too. Oil extraction isn't a clean, easy process either and the hope of solid state batteries would really swing this into an even easier argument.
Full disclosure, I drive a manual VW and have one that gets even worse mileage on order.
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Wait, 30,000 mile break even? (need to show the math on that statistic) And what, West Virginia?  |
West Virginia is all coal, hard to charge an EV on coal and claim you're clean. Texas is still about 15% coal, so it's a longer payoff down here too, without reverting to solar, which, of course, has its own life cycle issues.
There are a number of independent white papers on full life cycle comparisons, this is a link to one example. One factor to consider too is that the US hasn't built a new refinery in forty five years and the annual costs of upkeep on those old things is continuing to rise. Of course we also but quite a bit of refined gas and diesel too, but even international refineries are nearly as old. There have been large investments in new facilities for biodiesel and SAF, but as yet, only Porsche is really doing any significant work on synthetic unleaded.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/07...tudy-confirms/